[Discuss] points

[ian manning]

This all sounds rather conservative with a small c, and very negative.  It
is a shame I didn't get a single reply to my request for help, yet this
thread with people generally moaning and being negative gets so many
replies.

It is perfectly possible to have a bbq without damaging the environment or
disturbing other people - and no one should have any right to stop
reasonable people being reasonably.  Democracy is about each individuals
right to express themselves, not the state telling them what to do.

Of course I agree that people not behaving reasonable should feel the force
of the law/enforcement.

And, on your specific point Anne, yes I am an optimistic person, I dont' see
a need to apologise for that! :)

Ian

Ian Manning
Chair, VIE Residents' Association
http://www.vieresidents.org.uk




On 21 April 2010 11:18, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:

> Good point on the barbecue spelling, shall adopt immediately.
>
> Booking a party on a barbecue site? A really good idea, but that doesn’t
> detract from the very real Libertarian problem. We are ruled by Liberal
> Democrats and their emphasis is more liberal than demotic. It is hard to ban
> things for them. Other countries, sites, parks don’t share ( thank God) this
> aversion to telling people what to do but our Council and its adherents and
> followers still hope that people will just ‘do the right thing’ and reminded
> that they shouldn’t permanently burn the grass for the whole season will
> desist from so doing.
>
> People in the past would have fount this approach risibly optimistic. And
> so do many citizens today. There is nothing  wrong I contend with
> introducing signs to remind Green Users ( yes Simon I have just got the
> confusion in a General Election) that there exists a ban on fires as I
> prefer to call them, as barbecues are just as destructive and you can’t have
> any smoke without either.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 20/4/10 20:08, "Simon Norton" <S.Norton at dpmms.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> > Sorry if it makes me seem pedantic, but "barbecue" is not spelt with a Q.
> If
> > it
> > was it would be pronounced quite differently ! I regard the abbreviation
> BBQ,
> > which does suggest the correct pronunciation, as acceptable.
> >
> > Also, with the forthcoming general election, I initially misinterpreted
> the
> > start of the first message on this thread "the Greens are being badly
> > damaged..." (with a capital G).
> >
> > Now for a couple of more substantive issues. First, in yesterday's
> Guardian
> > there is an article suggesting that eating barbecued food can cause
> cancer.
> > Search for "barbecue cancer" on http://www.guardian.co.uk
> >
> > Secondly, I would have thought that most people would want barbecuing
> > facilities
> > for parties rather than family meals. Could one therefore introduce a
> booking
> > system whereby people contacted the Council in advance, saying where they
>
> > wanted
> > to hold the barbecue and roughly how many people they expected, and the
> > Council
> > would then tell them whether there was anywhere suitable that fit their
> > requirements ? This would have the advantage of eliminating the need for
> > special
> > notices. Bye laws would read something like "no cooking unless
> authorised" --
> > which I think is appropriate anyway because of the number of special
> events on
> > Midsummer Common (and other greens) where freshly cooked food is sold
> (more
> > pedantry !). I would expect that the Council would impose some kind of
> payment
> > for the facility, which should be refunded if the weather was such that
> the
> > barbecue had to be cancelled. Is this a feasible way of doing things ?
> >
> > If this was agreed then SOS should ask to be consulted as to what places
> would
> > be considered suitable -- that is, assuming that the answer isn't "none".
> >
> >  Simon Norton
> >
> >
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