[Discuss] Barbecues - a burning issue

Anne Garvey annemgarvey at ntlworld.com
Wed Jul 14 12:23:46 BST 2010


The grass is covered now with hundreds of burns which will cost a fortune to
repair . I don¹t think it is offensive to point out that barbecues are
polluting of the air of other people and causing thousands of pounds worth
of damage. One person¹s barbecue rights infringe the large majority of
people who just want to picnic without the smoke and danger of permanent
burning to the green. Surely we are entitled to that view without offence
being inferred?


On 13/7/10 12:47, "ian manning" <manning.ian at gmail.com> wrote:

> I fear this is rehashing old ground, but I've had plently of barbeques on
> Jesus Green with disposables and not burned the ground.  The comments below,
> no doubt typed in anger, are pretty offensive to the large number of us who
> have BBQs without offending anyone.
> 
> As I've said before, enforcement of inconsiderate use should also happen and
> would be something I support.
> 
> Ian
> 
> On 13 July 2010 11:14, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> It is appalling to inflict barbecues on the users of Jesus Green. Barbecues
>> are a tiny but destructive minority . All other users, sportspeople,
>> children, picnickers in this small space should really not have to breathe in
>> barbecue smoke. It is not a wild area but a mown cultivated space and very
>> heavily populated. Barbecue smoke is harmful intrusive and I surely am not
>> the only person finding it disgusting to smell cooking of innumerable cheap
>> battery chicken and burgers. Clouds of smoke drifting over other people using
>> the green is just not on. Why do the authorities insist on perceiving Jesus
>> Greenas some amazing wilderness? It is a very cultivated and urban and sports
>> area ­ there should be much more encouragement I think of sports actitivites
>> for young people, a far better way of using the area than contaminating other
>> people¹s air and simply sitting about eating.
>> 
>> The writer is quite right. The lack of guidance with the new signs ( where
>> the temporary ones were completely clear no barbecues ) creates a grey area
>> where there has to be a discussion after every intervention, with people
>> possibly believing that Œfires¹ doesn¹t mean barbecues, or saying they think
>> that.
>> 
>> Fires are prohibited by the byelaws. The byelaws are passed by Parliament. If
>> the Council wants to change that to allow barbecues they have to go back to
>> parliament and change it . Meanwhile they are in defiance of their own rules
>> in not enforcing it. It is actually not Œ up for discussion² it¹s a reality .
>> That is if you consider a barbecue a fire, which the Council members clearly
>> don¹t.  I think Cambridge would look ridiculous arguing this to change their
>> own byelaw just to accommodate a tiny group of people who up to now have done
>> appalling damage.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 13/7/10 09:40, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>> 
>>> > Oh dear, here we go again, this is not helpful:
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> 
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Home/Special-barbecue-areas-would-stop-illeg>>>
al
>>> > -fires.htm
>>> > 
>>> > I had thought that the management groups of Midsummer Common / Jesus
>>> > Green had decided that their common land in central Cambridge isn't
>>> > suitable for bbq's, and other areas such as Lammas land should be used.
>>> > 
>>> > How long is this going to go on being re-hashed?  Can't we just say:
>>> > no barbecues on Jesus Green?
>>> > 
>>> > John
>>> > 
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