From chair at soscambridge.org.uk  Thu Sep  9 07:33:01 2010
From: chair at soscambridge.org.uk (John Lawton)
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 07:33:01 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Urgent  - tree questionnaire
Message-ID: <20100909073248.XWRG22376.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>

Hi,

You may have already heard about the consultation on plans for new 
planting, and some felling of trees on Midsummer Common and Jesus Green.
There is an online questionnaire or a document can be downloaded and completed.

See the council webpage:

http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/ccm/content/planning-and-building-control/historic-environment-and-trees/trees-and-tree-works/tree-planting-proposals-consultation.en

Just to remind you that the deadline to respond is noon this Friday!

The analysis and planting scheme will be presented to West/Central 
Area Committee at a special Environmental Improvement Programme 
meeting held on 23 September 2010 in the committee rooms at the 
Guildhall at 7.30pm.

John Lawton
SOS Chair

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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep  9 11:32:47 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 11:32:47 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Urgent  - tree questionnaire
In-Reply-To: <20100909073248.XWRG22376.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>
Message-ID: <C8AE765F.4105%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Hello there

I think the questionnaire is marginally mad. It says the ?planting? scheme (
which is actually a lot of felling) main aim is to ?restore historic
boundaries.?
Er, what are the historic boundaries for a start, and why frankly do they
need ?restoring?. I don?t get it.

Note that there are alarming options to axe entire avenues of trees. I
discussed this with the Council in their Consultation Tent. They said it was
, and this is absolutely accurate ? like Capability Brown ? or those
Victorians who cut down a lot of trees for their scheme?

Personally I would like them to forget about historic boundaries, stop these
proposals to chop down healthy trees ? axeing the copper beeches would this
woman on JG Council tent told me ? create a uniform green coherent  line?.
It is such rubbish.  They?re very keen on uniformity, smaller and different
trees have to do and as for Leylandi, even the ones that afford real
protection for the Pool are to be axed altogether.

I dislike their use of language. I have never heard trees described as
?coherent? before and the word ?rationalise? spelled in that American way,
has me baffled. 

Can they not return to their role as park keepers forget all about
Capability Brown and just plant new trees when the old ones die.

They?ve had ?500 for three years from the Electricity Board to replace a
Plane Tree but strangely haven?t got around to doing that.


On 9/9/10 07:33, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> You may have already heard about the consultation on plans for new
> planting, and some felling of trees on Midsummer Common and Jesus Green.
> There is an online questionnaire or a document can be downloaded and
> completed.
> 
> See the council webpage:
> 
> http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/ccm/content/planning-and-building-control/historic
> -environment-and-trees/trees-and-tree-works/tree-planting-proposals-consultati
> on.en
> 
> Just to remind you that the deadline to respond is noon this Friday!
> 
> The analysis and planting scheme will be presented to West/Central
> Area Committee at a special Environmental Improvement Programme
> meeting held on 23 September 2010 in the committee rooms at the
> Guildhall at 7.30pm.
> 
> John Lawton
> SOS Chair
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Save Our green Spaces
> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
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> 
> 
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From chair at soscambridge.org.uk  Sun Sep 19 18:34:04 2010
From: chair at soscambridge.org.uk (John Lawton)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:34:04 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Urgent! - Trees in Alexandra Gardens in danger of felling
 by council
Message-ID: <20100919183301.SYUC22376.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>

Hello,

I though that you should know about the threat to fell a number of 
mature plane trees in this lovely green space off Chesterton 
Road.  There is nothing wrong with the trees, but they are blamed for 
causing structural damage to a nearby property.

See the SOS Cambridge website for more details: 
<http://soscambridge.org.uk/>http://soscambridge.org.uk/

If you find the idea of felling these lovely trees abhorrent, please 
write in protest at the proposed actions.  It is possible to send in 
submissions up to the 21st (Tuesday) and the planning meeting will be 
held on the 22nd September at the Guildhall to recommend the fate of the trees.

Details of all the email contacts are also on the website above.

Regards,

John Lawton
SOS Chair

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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Mon Sep 20 10:42:01 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:42:01 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Urgent! - Trees in Alexandra Gardens in danger of
 felling by council
In-Reply-To: <20100919183301.SYUC22376.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>
Message-ID: <C8BCEAF9.420C%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Thanks John, have written in.

Also asking an FOI question about the cost of the ridiculous 'survey'
they've just concluded using a Yorkshire based PR company


Yours A.


On 19/9/10 18:34, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I though that you should know about the threat to fell a number of
> mature plane trees in this lovely green space off Chesterton
> Road.  There is nothing wrong with the trees, but they are blamed for
> causing structural damage to a nearby property.
> 
> See the SOS Cambridge website for more details:
> <http://soscambridge.org.uk/>http://soscambridge.org.uk/
> 
> If you find the idea of felling these lovely trees abhorrent, please
> write in protest at the proposed actions.  It is possible to send in
> submissions up to the 21st (Tuesday) and the planning meeting will be
> held on the 22nd September at the Guildhall to recommend the fate of the
> trees.
> 
> Details of all the email contacts are also on the website above.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John Lawton
> SOS Chair
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Save Our green Spaces
> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
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> 
> 
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From S.Norton at dpmms.cam.ac.uk  Mon Sep 20 18:18:20 2010
From: S.Norton at dpmms.cam.ac.uk (Simon Norton)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:18:20 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens
Message-ID: <E1Oxk0S-0001LU-Qu@gallinule.dpmms.cam.ac.uk>

According to the SOS website the tree felling will not be discussed at
tomorrow's committee meeting. This presumably means that we have more time to
prepare our objections -- can someone confirm ?

I may need this extra time as it isn't clear from anything I've seen so far what
we should be proposing as an alternative to felling the trees. Can someone
elucidate ?

Incidentally I live near enough to have had an official notice about the
felling of the trees. But I don't feel I understand the issues well enough to be
able to prepare an objection without guidance.

 Simon Norton, 6 Hertford St




From rcantrill at millingtonadvisory.com  Mon Sep 20 18:46:47 2010
From: rcantrill at millingtonadvisory.com (Rod Cantrill)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:46:47 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens
In-Reply-To: <E1Oxk0S-0001LU-Qu@gallinule.dpmms.cam.ac.uk>
References: <E1Oxk0S-0001LU-Qu@gallinule.dpmms.cam.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <32B9C27B1C38EF4690DCFAF696669B1B1536D9@mil-sbs.millington.local>

I can confirm that I have asked officers top defer the item until the
October Planning meeting so that residents are able to consider and
comment on the proposals properly and to enable ward councillors and
myself to discuss with residents their concerns

Regards 

Rod Cantrill

Cllr Rod Cantrill
Ward Councillor Newnham 
Executive Councillor
Arts & Recreation
Cambridge City Council 
Tel: +44 7919103865
E-mail: rcantrill at millingtonadvisory.com



 

-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces at soscambridge.org.uk
[mailto:discuss-bounces at soscambridge.org.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Norton
Sent: 20 September 2010 18:18
To: discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens

According to the SOS website the tree felling will not be discussed at
tomorrow's committee meeting. This presumably means that we have more
time to
prepare our objections -- can someone confirm ?

I may need this extra time as it isn't clear from anything I've seen so
far what
we should be proposing as an alternative to felling the trees. Can
someone
elucidate ?

Incidentally I live near enough to have had an official notice about the
felling of the trees. But I don't feel I understand the issues well
enough to be
able to prepare an objection without guidance.

 Simon Norton, 6 Hertford St


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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Tue Sep 21 10:40:31 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:40:31 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens
In-Reply-To: <32B9C27B1C38EF4690DCFAF696669B1B1536D9@mil-sbs.millington.local>
Message-ID: <C8BE3C1F.423F%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Excellent.There are some huge questions here affecting the future of all
trees, claims for subsidence and other tremendously important factors.


On 20/9/10 18:46, "Rod Cantrill" <rcantrill at millingtonadvisory.com> wrote:

> I can confirm that I have asked officers top defer the item until the
> October Planning meeting so that residents are able to consider and
> comment on the proposals properly and to enable ward councillors and
> myself to discuss with residents their concerns
> 
> Regards 
> 
> Rod Cantrill
> 
> Cllr Rod Cantrill
> Ward Councillor Newnham
> Executive Councillor
> Arts & Recreation
> Cambridge City Council
> Tel: +44 7919103865
> E-mail: rcantrill at millingtonadvisory.com
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces at soscambridge.org.uk
> [mailto:discuss-bounces at soscambridge.org.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Norton
> Sent: 20 September 2010 18:18
> To: discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens
> 
> According to the SOS website the tree felling will not be discussed at
> tomorrow's committee meeting. This presumably means that we have more
> time to
> prepare our objections -- can someone confirm ?
> 
> I may need this extra time as it isn't clear from anything I've seen so
> far what
> we should be proposing as an alternative to felling the trees. Can
> someone
> elucidate ?
> 
> Incidentally I live near enough to have had an official notice about the
> felling of the trees. But I don't feel I understand the issues well
> enough to be
> able to prepare an objection without guidance.
> 
>  Simon Norton, 6 Hertford St
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> 
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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Tue Sep 21 10:45:43 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:45:43 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens
In-Reply-To: <E1Oxk0S-0001LU-Qu@gallinule.dpmms.cam.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <C8BE3D57.4243%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Yes I agree, we must marshall the doubtless interesting arguments, ours
cannot be the single instance of this happening but it is frankly absolutely
typical of this administration to rush to the felling option first, headed
by Mrs. Oviat Hamm.


On 20/9/10 18:18, "Simon Norton" <S.Norton at dpmms.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> According to the SOS website the tree felling will not be discussed at
> tomorrow's committee meeting. This presumably means that we have more time to
> prepare our objections -- can someone confirm ?
> 
> I may need this extra time as it isn't clear from anything I've seen so far
> what
> we should be proposing as an alternative to felling the trees. Can someone
> elucidate ?
> 
> Incidentally I live near enough to have had an official notice about the
> felling of the trees. But I don't feel I understand the issues well enough to
> be
> able to prepare an objection without guidance.
> 
>  Simon Norton, 6 Hertford St
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
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From aeh1 at hermes.cam.ac.uk  Tue Sep 21 18:11:04 2010
From: aeh1 at hermes.cam.ac.uk (AE Hill)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:11:04 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens Tree Felling Proposals
Message-ID: <E1Oy6Mw-0005dZ-i5@ppsw-33.csi.cam.ac.uk>


Hello :

I have put together as an attachment a short relatively non-technical 
document about the scientific and logical issues behind the proposed 
tree felling in Alexandra Gardens for anyone who might wish to read 
it. The aim is to make people think about the often re-iterated 
statement by the Chief Arboricultural Officer (the form varies) to 
the effect that the trees have been shown to be the agent creating 
the subsidence upon which the felling proposal rests.

Until we see the independent surveyors report, which the Council 
officers have not yet released, it is impossible to judge the 'data' 
on which this conclusion is based. However, I have tried to show that 
it is not at all simple and that we should rid ourselves of the 
simple equation of (tree roots)=(serious water 
extraction)=(drying/subsidence)=(required felling) which seems to be 
axiomatic in the minds of many people.

Anyone really interested (and with a bit of time !) should read - or 
pick the relevant plums out of - the London Tree Officers Association 
report of 2008, which makes the case against blaming trees for too 
much of the subsidence in London and the role of the insurance 
companies (see relevant bits above, also).

Adrian Hill
29 Alpha Road
Cambridge CB4 3DQ 
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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Tue Sep 21 18:49:15 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:49:15 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens Tree Felling Proposals
In-Reply-To: <E1Oy6Mw-0005dZ-i5@ppsw-33.csi.cam.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <C8BEAEAB.4273%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Wow. This is such brilliantly written hot stuff, it absolutely challenges
the entire basis of their claim.

I have worried about Mrs.Oviatt Hamm for some time. Her plan to ?restore the
historic boundaries of Jesus Green? involves cutting down a lot of trees,
this is simply another example of someone who is not remotely on top of
their job.

Has anyone approached Dr.Oliver Rackham ( not that this scholarly and
convincing piece of analysis needs any back up ) but he is readily available
at Corpus and helped me with thoughts on London planes when I was
campaigning against the wholescale ?re-modelling? of Jesus Green last year.
Now dropped.

AG


On 21/9/10 18:11, "AE Hill" <aeh1 at hermes.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> 
> Hello :
> 
> I have put together as an attachment a short relatively non-technical document
> about the scientific and logical issues behind the proposed tree felling in
> Alexandra Gardens for anyone who might wish to read it. The aim is to make
> people think about the often re-iterated statement by the Chief Arboricultural
> Officer (the form varies) to the effect that the trees have been shown to be
> the agent creating the subsidence upon which the felling proposal rests.
> 
> Until we see the independent surveyors report, which the Council officers have
> not yet released, it is impossible to judge the 'data' on which this
> conclusion is based. However, I have tried to show that it is not at all
> simple and that we should rid ourselves of the simple equation of (tree
> roots)=(serious water extraction)=(drying/subsidence)=(required felling) which
> seems to be axiomatic in the minds of many people.
> 
> Anyone really interested (and with a bit of time !) should read - or pick the
> relevant plums out of - the London Tree Officers Association report of 2008,
> which makes the case against blaming trees for too much of the subsidence in
> London and the role of the insurance companies (see relevant bits above,
> also).
> 
> Adrian Hill
> 29 Alpha Road
> Cambridge CB4 3DQ
> 
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk


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From aeh1 at hermes.cam.ac.uk  Wed Sep 22 12:28:38 2010
From: aeh1 at hermes.cam.ac.uk (AE Hill)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:28:38 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens Tree Felling Proposals
In-Reply-To: <C8BEAEAB.4273%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
References: <E1Oy6Mw-0005dZ-i5@ppsw-33.csi.cam.ac.uk>
	<C8BEAEAB.4273%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <E1OyNV5-00056H-0C@ppsw-32.csi.cam.ac.uk>


Dear Anne,

I saw your letter about my screed - thank you for your kind comments. 
The aim was merely to get people to take a sceptical view of what the 
Council Officers say ! A bigger document is being prepared as a 
counterweight to Oviatt-Ham but this will take some time.

I do know Oliver as we both shared a room for many years in the 
Botany School (now Plant Sciences) but haven't spoken to him for 10 
years. Your contacting him about planes has spurred me to ask him 
about the proposals too - for that, thanks.

With kind regards,
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From margaret at corona4.fsnet.co.uk  Wed Sep 22 16:50:54 2010
From: margaret at corona4.fsnet.co.uk (Margaret Wright)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:50:54 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens Tree Felling Proposals
In-Reply-To: <E1OyNV5-00056H-0C@ppsw-32.csi.cam.ac.uk>
References: <E1Oy6Mw-0005dZ-i5@ppsw-33.csi.cam.ac.uk>
	<C8BEAEAB.4273%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
	<E1OyNV5-00056H-0C@ppsw-32.csi.cam.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <1819ED04D3A04AF7AE7D7FDD1D7B4ADA@margaretPC>

Just a note to say I was relieved that the application has been delayed and that more evidence will now be put before the committee,

Best wishes,

Margaret Wright
Member Planning Committee.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: AE Hill 
  To: margaret at corona4.fsnet.co.uk ; SOS Cambridge discussion list 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 12:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens Tree Felling Proposals



  Dear Anne,

  I saw your letter about my screed - thank you for your kind comments. The aim was merely to get people to take a sceptical view of what the Council Officers say ! A bigger document is being prepared as a counterweight to Oviatt-Ham but this will take some time.

  I do know Oliver as we both shared a room for many years in the Botany School (now Plant Sciences) but haven't spoken to him for 10 years. Your contacting him about planes has spurred me to ask him about the proposals too - for that, thanks.

  With kind regards,
  Adrian Hill. 


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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Wed Sep 22 17:59:03 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:59:03 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens Tree Felling Proposals
In-Reply-To: <E1OyNV5-00056H-0C@ppsw-32.csi.cam.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <C8BFF467.42B4%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Dear Dr.Hill,


I did really think your presentation was refreshingly direct and readable .
As a journalist, one sometimes despairs of material prepared for the public
and this was exceptionally lucid for us lay dullards. I am now completely
confident that sense will eventually prevail.

I am delighted that Oliver?s help with the last protest has somehow linked
you both again, united we stand.


Best wishes


Anne Garvey 18 Hertford Street


On 22/9/10 12:28, "AE Hill" <aeh1 at hermes.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> 
> Dear Anne,
> 
> I saw your letter about my screed - thank you for your kind comments. The aim
> was merely to get people to take a sceptical view of what the Council Officers
> say ! A bigger document is being prepared as a counterweight to Oviatt-Ham but
> this will take some time.
> 
> I do know Oliver as we both shared a room for many years in the Botany School
> (now Plant Sciences) but haven't spoken to him for 10 years. Your contacting
> him about planes has spurred me to ask him about the proposals too - for that,
> thanks.
> 
> With kind regards,
> Adrian Hill.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk


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From chair at soscambridge.org.uk  Wed Sep 22 21:35:03 2010
From: chair at soscambridge.org.uk (John Lawton)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:35:03 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
Message-ID: <20100922213503.XAHC1807.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>

Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central 
Area Committee on
Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans 
developed by the council.

The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.

The meeting details are here: 
<http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502 


Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!

John Lawton
SOS Chair

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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep 23 10:22:09 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:22:09 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <20100922213503.XAHC1807.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>
Message-ID: <C8C0DAD1.42C0%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a form
of madness.


On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:

> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
> Area Committee on
> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
> developed by the council.
> 
> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.
> 
> The meeting details are here:
> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>ht
> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
> 
> 
> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
> 
> John Lawton
> SOS Chair
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Save Our green Spaces
> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk

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From p.constable at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep 23 11:45:47 2010
From: p.constable at ntlworld.com (CONSTABLE PETER)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:45:47 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <C8C0DAD1.42C0%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
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	<C8C0DAD1.42C0%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
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Anne
Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
replacement numbers.

So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
Let's be positive.
Yrs
Peter

On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a form
> of madness.
>
>
> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>> Area Committee on
>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>> developed by the council.
>>
>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.
>>
>> The meeting details are here:
>>
>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>ht
>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>>
>>
>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>>
>> John Lawton
>> SOS Chair
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> Save Our green Spaces
>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> discuss mailing list
>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>
>



From cartoons at andydavey.com  Thu Sep 23 11:58:02 2010
From: cartoons at andydavey.com (Andy Davey)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:58:02 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
	plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <20100922213503.XAHC1807.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>
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Message-ID: <006a01cb5b0e$32cbd500$98637f00$@com>

Will try to be there
Andy
e: mailto:cartoons at andydavey.com


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Sent: 22 September 2010 21:35
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Cc: discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting plans on Jesus Green and
Midsummer Common

Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central 
Area Committee on
Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans 
developed by the council.

The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.

The meeting details are here: 
<http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>http://www.cambridge.gov
.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502 


Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!

John Lawton
SOS Chair

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http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep 23 13:20:52 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:20:52 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimbqJLcJEGVNfhZ0=S+UuRCHwSdYBifvHYpswr9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C8C104B4.42D7%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on
felling perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.

For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ?
simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.

With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the
tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one
was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two
types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the
conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.


The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good
sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the
view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.



Best wishes


Anne


On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:

> Anne
> Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
> midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
> The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
> of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
> We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
> replacement numbers.
> 
> So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
> Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
> prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
> Let's be positive.
> Yrs
> Peter
> 
> On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
>> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a form
>> of madness.
>> 
>> 
>> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>> 
>>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>>> Area Committee on
>>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>>> developed by the council.
>>> 
>>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.
>>> 
>>> The meeting details are here:
>>> 
>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>
>>> ht
>>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>>> 
>>> John Lawton
>>> SOS Chair
>>> 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>> Save Our green Spaces
>>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> discuss mailing list
>>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> discuss mailing list
>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>> 
>> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From p.constable at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep 23 13:41:27 2010
From: p.constable at ntlworld.com (peter constable)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:41:27 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
	plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <C8C104B4.42D7%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
References: <C8C104B4.42D7%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <6860BE9C-A921-4BBD-BB77-1E94613805B7@ntlworld.com>

Anne
The copper beech close to my house and the one at the corner of Park  
Parade and lower park Street are not now on the "felling" list.
Of the 5 on the list three are the leylandii by La Mimosa and two are  
small beeches by Jesus Brook. I have proposals for both of these.
More tonight....
Peter
On 23 Sep 2010, at 13:20, Anne Garvey wrote:

> Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance  
> on felling perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer  
> fashionable.
>
> For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for  
> the axe ? simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a  
> green line of trees.
>
> With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside  
> the tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good  
> reason, and no one was given any option on that ? choice on that  
> questionnaire was between two types of replacement hedge. Like the  
> majority of swimmers, I feel the conifers by the pool are a useful  
> screen for privacy and for wind.
>
>
> The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for  
> good sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and  
> certainly the view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy  
> adopted.
>
>
>
> Best wishes
>
>
> Anne
>
>
> On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> > Anne
> > Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
> > midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus  
> Green.
> > The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large  
> percentage
> > of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
> > We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
> > replacement numbers.
> >
> > So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
> > Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
> > prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
> > Let's be positive.
> > Yrs
> > Peter
> >
> > On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com>  
> wrote:
> >> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to  
> provide
> >> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which  
> is a form
> >> of madness.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
> >>> Area Committee on
> >>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting  
> plans
> >>> developed by the council.
> >>>
> >>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in  
> Cambridge.
> >>>
> >>> The meeting details are here:
> >>>
> >>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502 
> >
> >>> ht
> >>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
> >>>
> >>> John Lawton
> >>> SOS Chair
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>> Save Our green Spaces
> >>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> discuss mailing list
> >>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> >>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> discuss mailing list
> >> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> >> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> >>
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > discuss mailing list
> > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/ 
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From elliestoneley at googlemail.com  Thu Sep 23 14:55:26 2010
From: elliestoneley at googlemail.com (Ellie Stoneley)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:55:26 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <C8C104B4.42D7%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
References: <AANLkTimbqJLcJEGVNfhZ0=S+UuRCHwSdYBifvHYpswr9@mail.gmail.com>
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I would second that ...

just fyi - I have 'tweeted' about this and the meeting tonight from @FofSC
the Friends of Stourbridge Common twitter account and also featured it on
our new website please could you note the new website address ... forward me
links to your sites as you would like and any other local news you would
like including
http://stourbridgecommon.wordpress.com

good luck tonight - I can't make it due to long standing commitment but
would add my voice to those already shouting about trees going out of
fashion and so on ... there are not enough trees in Cambridge as it is

all the best
Ellie

On 23 September 2010 13:20, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:

>  Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on
> felling perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>
> For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ?
> simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.
>
> With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the
> tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one
> was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two
> types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the
> conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.
>
>
> The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good
> sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the
> view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>
>
>
> Best wishes
>
>
> Anne
>
>
>
> On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> > Anne
> > Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
> > midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
> > The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
> > of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
> > We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
> > replacement numbers.
> >
> > So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
> > Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
> > prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
> > Let's be positive.
> > Yrs
> > Peter
> >
> > On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com>
> wrote:
> >> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
> >> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a
> form
> >> of madness.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
> >>> Area Committee on
> >>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
> >>> developed by the council.
> >>>
> >>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in
> Cambridge.
> >>>
> >>> The meeting details are here:
> >>>
> >>>
> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502><http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>
> >>> ht
> >>> tp://
> www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
> >>>
> >>> John Lawton
> >>> SOS Chair
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>> Save Our green Spaces
> >>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> discuss mailing list
> >>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> >>>
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> discuss mailing list
> >> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> >> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> >>
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > discuss mailing list
> > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>
>


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From pale.aquamarine at googlemail.com  Thu Sep 23 15:16:51 2010
From: pale.aquamarine at googlemail.com (Lisa Buchholz)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:16:51 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikxcb=XjHUoAkD-AyUmmpWBNnWTW=x+NfSHtVvq@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimbqJLcJEGVNfhZ0=S+UuRCHwSdYBifvHYpswr9@mail.gmail.com>
	<C8C104B4.42D7%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
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Ellie - thanks so much - I saw that that you had sent that out.  I'm
planning to go - people are hysterical about the tree 'cull' going on!  I am
so with you on lack of trees (in UK in general I think!).  I always think
how much nicer my street would look if had about 10 big trees on it!

BTW - this is the thing I was thinking of going to at the ADC - what do you
think?  too weird?  There are some other things on but hard to get a grip on
from website; brochure is better.....

The Fire Within
by Patrick Garety
*Tuesday 19th October - Saturday 23rd October*
?10-?6

 The fires will be burning in the streets of Udaipur tonight.The British Raj
in India is coming to an end.In the twilight of history, an entrenched
colonial family prepares its last supper.

Eve has been missing all day. On the eve of James? departure for England,
the family gathers for a final farewell. Tempers fray as the oppressive heat
of day climaxes in the stifling darkness of the Indian night. Someone is
harbouring a dark secret. Outside, a storm is brewing. This poignant
snapshot of a decaying empire is a pertinent reminder of the bonds of
family, the power of love, and the struggle for identity that burns
within. Nothing
is ever really yours here. No matter how many times we stamp things, nothing
is really British. Patrick Garety?s lyrical new play comes to the ADC in a
haunting and evocative production which celebrates the fervour of youth, and
how the choices of a moment can shape our lives.

Have a look and see if other things interest?  I decided there was nothing
really at the Arts that got me going.


Lisa


On 23 September 2010 14:55, Ellie Stoneley <elliestoneley at googlemail.com>wrote:

> I would second that ...
>
> just fyi - I have 'tweeted' about this and the meeting tonight from @FofSC
> the Friends of Stourbridge Common twitter account and also featured it on
> our new website please could you note the new website address ... forward me
> links to your sites as you would like and any other local news you would
> like including
> http://stourbridgecommon.wordpress.com
>
> good luck tonight - I can't make it due to long standing commitment but
> would add my voice to those already shouting about trees going out of
> fashion and so on ... there are not enough trees in Cambridge as it is
>
> all the best
> Ellie
>
>
> On 23 September 2010 13:20, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>  Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on
>> felling perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>>
>> For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe
>> ? simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of
>> trees.
>>
>> With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the
>> tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one
>> was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two
>> types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the
>> conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.
>>
>>
>> The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good
>> sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the
>> view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>>
>> Anne
>>
>>
>>
>> On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Anne
>> > Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
>> > midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
>> > The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
>> > of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
>> > We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
>> > replacement numbers.
>> >
>> > So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
>> > Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
>> > prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
>> > Let's be positive.
>> > Yrs
>> > Peter
>> >
>> > On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to
>> provide
>> >> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a
>> form
>> >> of madness.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>> >>> Area Committee on
>> >>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>> >>> developed by the council.
>> >>>
>> >>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in
>> Cambridge.
>> >>>
>> >>> The meeting details are here:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502><http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>
>> >>> ht
>> >>> tp://
>> www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>> >>>
>> >>> John Lawton
>> >>> SOS Chair
>> >>>
>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> >>> Save Our green Spaces
>> >>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep 23 15:36:20 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:36:20 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <6860BE9C-A921-4BBD-BB77-1E94613805B7@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <C8C12474.42E9%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Well that is a relief ? but imagine the mentality of even proposing to cut
them down, that?s what we?re dealing with.

As for the Leylandii, they are clearly a nuisance in gardens  but have their
uses when it comes to open spaces. I like them and so did the people who
planted them, they smell nice and will look very bare if they?re gone.
Idiiotically they?re planning to replace them with limes which are famous
for dropping sticky substances all over the place, las thing you need on a
tennis court, the new ones will be plagued by the secretions, ridiculous
costly and pointless idea.

See you this evening

A.


On 23/9/10 13:41, "peter constable" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:

> Anne
> The copper beech close to my house and the one at the corner of Park Parade
> and lower park Street are not now on the "felling" list.
> Of the 5 on the list three are the leylandii by La Mimosa and two are small
> beeches by Jesus Brook. I have proposals for both of these.
> More tonight.... 
> Peter
> On 23 Sep 2010, at 13:20, Anne Garvey wrote:
> 
>>  Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on
>> felling perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>>  
>>  For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ?
>> simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.
>>  
>>  With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the
>> tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one
>> was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two
>> types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the
>> conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.
>>  
>>  
>>  The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good
>> sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the
>> view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  Best wishes
>>  
>>  
>>  Anne
>>  
>>  
>>  On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>  
>>>  > Anne
>>>  > Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
>>>  > midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
>>>  > The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
>>>  > of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
>>>  > We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
>>>  > replacement numbers.
>>>  > 
>>>  > So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
>>>  > Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
>>>  > prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
>>>  > Let's be positive.
>>>  > Yrs
>>>  > Peter
>>>  > 
>>>  > On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>  >> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to
>>>> provide
>>>>  >> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a
>>>> form
>>>>  >> of madness.
>>>>  >> 
>>>>  >> 
>>>>  >> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>  >> 
>>>>>  >>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>>>>>  >>> Area Committee on
>>>>>  >>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>>>>>  >>> developed by the council.
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in
>>>>> Cambridge.
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> The meeting details are here:
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=50
>>>>> 2> 
>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&amp;MI
>>>>> d=502> 
>>>>>  >>> ht
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&amp;MI
>>>>> d=502> 
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> John Lawton
>>>>>  >>> SOS Chair
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>  >>> Save Our green Spaces
>>>>>  >>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>>  >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>  >>> discuss mailing list
>>>>>  >>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>  >> 
>>>>  >> _______________________________________________
>>>>  >> discuss mailing list
>>>>  >> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>  >> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>  >> 
>>>>  >> 
>>>  > 
>>>  > _______________________________________________
>>>  > discuss mailing list
>>>  > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>  > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>   
>>   _______________________________________________
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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep 23 15:39:24 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:39:24 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikxcb=XjHUoAkD-AyUmmpWBNnWTW=x+NfSHtVvq@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C8C1252C.42EB%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Great, the zero tolerance is the only option in the face of this kind of
thinking.


On 23/9/10 14:55, "Ellie Stoneley" <elliestoneley at googlemail.com> wrote:

> I would second that ...?
> 
> just fyi - I have 'tweeted' about this and the meeting tonight from @FofSC the
> Friends of Stourbridge Common twitter account and also featured it on our new
> website please could you note the new website address ... forward me links to
> your sites as you would like and any other local news you would like including
> http://stourbridgecommon.wordpress.com
> 
> good luck tonight - I can't make it due to long standing commitment but would
> add my voice to those already shouting about trees going out of fashion and so
> on ... there are not enough trees in Cambridge as it is
> 
> all the best
> Ellie
> 
> On 23 September 2010 13:20, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on felling
>> perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>> 
>> For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ?
>> simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.
>> 
>> With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the
>> tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one
>> was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two
>> types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the
>> conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.
>> 
>> 
>> The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good
>> sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the
>> view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> > Anne
>>> > Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
>>> > midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
>>> > The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
>>> > of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
>>> > We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
>>> > replacement numbers.
>>> > 
>>> > So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
>>> > Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
>>> > prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
>>> > Let's be positive.
>>> > Yrs
>>> > Peter
>>> > 
>>> > On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>> >> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
>>>> >> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a
>>>> form
>>>> >> of madness.
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> >> 
>>>>> >>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>>>>> >>> Area Committee on
>>>>> >>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>>>>> >>> developed by the council.
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in
>>>>> Cambridge.
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> The meeting details are here:
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=50
>>>>> 2> 
>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&amp;MI
>>>>> d=502> 
>>>>> >>> ht
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&amp;MI
>>>>> d=502> 
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> John Lawton
>>>>> >>> SOS Chair
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> >>> Save Our green Spaces
>>>>> >>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >>> discuss mailing list
>>>>> >>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>> >> discuss mailing list
>>>> >> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> >> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> 
>>> > 
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > discuss mailing list
>>> > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>> > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> discuss mailing list
>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>> 
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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep 23 15:41:03 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:41:03 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=BTSU+39QWt-vq_Sc55Paa9P4X19AG-mQx6UkQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C8C1258F.42EC%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Well we would love ten trees on Hertford Street, it?s so bleak in winter,
just re-locate them here. Or perhaps we could five each.

I think the reaction is so well founded. How about a vote of No Confidence
in the Tree Officer?


On 23/9/10 15:16, "Lisa Buchholz" <pale.aquamarine at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Ellie - thanks so much - I saw that that you had sent that out.? I'm planning
> to go - people are hysterical about the tree 'cull' going on!? I am so with
> you on lack of trees (in UK in general I think!).? I always think how much
> nicer my street would look if had about 10 big trees on it!
> 
> BTW - this is the thing I was thinking of going to at the ADC - what do you
> think?? too weird?? There are some other things on but hard to get a grip on
> from website; brochure is better.....
> 
> The Fire Within
> by Patrick Garety
> Tuesday 19th October - Saturday 23rd October
> ?10-?6 
> 
> The fires will be burning in the streets of Udaipur tonight.The British Raj in
> India is coming to an end.In the twilight of history, an entrenched colonial
> family prepares its last supper.
> 
> Eve has been missing all day. On the eve of James? departure for England, the
> family gathers for a final farewell. Tempers fray as the oppressive heat of
> day climaxes in the stifling darkness of the Indian night. Someone is
> harbouring a dark secret. Outside, a storm is brewing. This poignant snapshot
> of a decaying empire is a pertinent reminder of the bonds of family, the power
> of love, and the struggle for identity that burns within. Nothing is ever
> really yours here. No matter how many times we stamp things, nothing is really
> British. Patrick Garety?s lyrical new play comes to the ADC in a haunting and
> evocative production which celebrates the fervour of youth, and how the
> choices of a moment can shape our lives.
> 
> Have a look and see if other things interest?? I decided there was nothing
> really at the Arts that got me going.
> 
> 
> Lisa
> 
> 
> On 23 September 2010 14:55, Ellie Stoneley <elliestoneley at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>> I would second that ...?
>> 
>> just fyi - I have 'tweeted' about this and the meeting tonight from @FofSC
>> the Friends of Stourbridge Common twitter account and also featured it on our
>> new website please could you note the new website address ... forward me
>> links to your sites as you would like and any other local news you would like
>> including
>> http://stourbridgecommon.wordpress.com
>> 
>> good luck tonight - I can't make it due to long standing commitment but would
>> add my voice to those already shouting about trees going out of fashion and
>> so on ... there are not enough trees in Cambridge as it is
>> 
>> all the best
>> Ellie
>> 
>> 
>> On 23 September 2010 13:20, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on
>>> felling perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>>> 
>>> For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ?
>>> simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.
>>> 
>>> With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the
>>> tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one
>>> was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two
>>> types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the
>>> conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good
>>> sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the
>>> view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best wishes
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> > Anne
>>>> > Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
>>>> > midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
>>>> > The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
>>>> > of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
>>>> > We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
>>>> > replacement numbers.
>>>> > 
>>>> > So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
>>>> > Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
>>>> > prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
>>>> > Let's be positive.
>>>> > Yrs
>>>> > Peter
>>>> > 
>>>> > On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to
>>>>> provide
>>>>> >> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a
>>>>> form
>>>>> >> of madness.
>>>>> >> 
>>>>> >> 
>>>>> >> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>> >> 
>>>>>> >>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>>>>>> >>> Area Committee on
>>>>>> >>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>>>>>> >>> developed by the council.
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in
>>>>>> Cambridge.
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> The meeting details are here:
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=5
>>>>>> 02> 
>>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&amp;M
>>>>>> Id=502> 
>>>>>> >>> ht
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&amp;M
>>>>>> Id=502> 
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> John Lawton
>>>>>> >>> SOS Chair
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> >>> Save Our green Spaces
>>>>>> >>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> >>> discuss mailing list
>>>>>> >>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>> >> 
>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >> discuss mailing list
>>>>> >> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>> >> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>> >> 
>>>>> >> 
>>>> > 
>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>> > discuss mailing list
>>>> > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> discuss mailing list
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>>> 
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From chair at soscambridge.org.uk  Fri Sep 24 12:38:20 2010
From: chair at soscambridge.org.uk (John Lawton)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:38:20 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Consultation on city allotments - ends today
Message-ID: <20100924123752.JUPJ12520.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>

Sorry about the very short notice, but this online consultation on 
city allotments ends today:

<http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/ccm/content/leisure-and-entertainment/allotments/allotment-management-policy-consultation.en>http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/ccm/content/leisure-and-entertainment/allotments/allotment-management-policy-consultation.en 


John Lawton
SOS Chair

---------------------------------------------------------
Save Our green Spaces
http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
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From skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Sep 24 18:25:07 2010
From: skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk (Joanna Gordon Clark)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 17:25:07 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
	plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikxcb=XjHUoAkD-AyUmmpWBNnWTW=x+NfSHtVvq@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimbqJLcJEGVNfhZ0=S+UuRCHwSdYBifvHYpswr9@mail.gmail.com>
	<C8C104B4.42D7%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
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Message-ID: <267517.39493.qm@web29718.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Adding my name and voice to your list.? Can't believe they are gong to chop the 
swimming pool trees, yes it is absolute madness.? Uniformity is not wanted and 
healthy trees must not be chopped.? The plane trees in Alexandra Gardens must 
not be felled, I think the argumetns against prevail entirely.

Do we know what the cost of the work to the man in Holland St. 's house would 
be?? I mean, I do have?sympathy with anyone whose house and?perhaps huge 
investment is?suffering from soil movement - but we don't have to agree to chop 
trees.? We can: either give the council enough arguments to fight off the 
houseowners' insurers, by makign it clear that the trees cannot be blamed for 
this, sicne they have co-existed with the houses for 100years at least,but the 
clay can be and that other factors,- climate,?water mains bursting and brick pit 
behaviour - will very certainly ahve influenced the soil movement.? That being 
the case, no tree can be found guilty.
We need a 'beyond all reasonable doubt' for the trees.

Could we agree that the Alexandra Gardens trees should simply not be felled, and 
other solutions found, including, as I think, that we find sources of funding to 
pay for the work to the house if the council refuses to play ball, and that no 
trees on Midsummer common or Jesus Green be felled for purely aesthetic reasons 
as present by teh council .? I cannot believe that we are being ignored by the 
council. 

Ok I hardly ever get to email and it is wonderful to find you all out there 
saying and doing things, my phone os 07847922023, and I would like to see a 
petition or a lshort letter sent out to all people in Cambridge at least, about 
the Alexandra Gardens trees, - this because of the time factor and they being so 
precious to so many locally.

I am horrified to find out about the Jesus Green etc. plans, and wonder what we 
can do to stop them, only I have to focus right now on the Gardens. I live on 
Vicotria Road, 103, in fact, and am so happy to hear all you people being tree 
defenders.

I suspect that some people may want to sit in trees to rpevent felling when push 
comes to shove as it were, and that we shoudl also have tree parties, with local 
schoolchildren also, to celebrate these trees, all of them and to come and sit 
under them and be motivated to take positive action towards saving them. 
They?can't save themselves.... eheu
Joanna?
?????? Joanna 




________________________________
From: Ellie Stoneley <elliestoneley at googlemail.com>
To: SOS Cambridge discussion list <discuss at soscambridge.org.uk>
Sent: Thu, 23 September, 2010 14:55:26
Subject: Re: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting 
plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common

I would second that ...? 

just fyi - I have 'tweeted' about this and the meeting tonight from @FofSC the 
Friends of Stourbridge Common twitter account and also featured it on our new 
website please could you note the new website address ... forward me links to 
your sites as you would like and any other local news you would like including
http://stourbridgecommon.wordpress.com

good luck tonight - I can't make it due to long standing commitment but would 
add my voice to those already shouting about trees going out of fashion and so 
on ... there are not enough trees in Cambridge as it is

all the best
Ellie


On 23 September 2010 13:20, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:

Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on felling 
perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>
>For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ? 
>simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.
>
>With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the tennis 
>court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one was given 
>any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two types of 
>replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the conifers by the 
>pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind. 
>
>
>
>The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good sound 
>reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the view of 
>everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>
>
>
>Best wishes
>
>
>Anne 
>
>
>
>On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> Anne
>> Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
>> midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
>> The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
>> of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
>> We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
>> replacement numbers.
>> 
>> So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
>> Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
>> prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
>> Let's be positive.
>> Yrs
>> Peter
>> 
>> On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
>>> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a form
>>> of madness.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>>>> Area Committee on
>>>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>>>> developed by the council.
>>>> 
>>>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.
>>>> 
>>>> The meeting details are here:
>>>> 
>>>> 
<http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>
>>>> ht
>>>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>>>> 
>>>> John Lawton
>>>> SOS Chair
>>>> 
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Save Our green Spaces
>>>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> discuss mailing list
>>>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> discuss mailing list
>>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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From p.constable at ntlworld.com  Sat Sep 25 14:35:06 2010
From: p.constable at ntlworld.com (CONSTABLE PETER)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:35:06 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Fwd: Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
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Slight correction. Trees at swimming pool are not to be 'chopped".
Consultation referred to leylandii hedge and proposal is "to plant to
the front,bulking up the hedge with a native specie
hedge, followed by a phased removal of the leylandii" (presumably
after the new one provides cover).  Hope this helps.
Peter
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Joanna Gordon Clark <skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk>
Date: 24 September 2010 18:25
Subject: Re: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree
planting plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
To: SOS Cambridge discussion list <discuss at soscambridge.org.uk>


Adding my name and voice to your list.? Can't believe they are gong to
chop the swimming pool trees, yes it is absolute madness.? Uniformity
is not wanted and healthy trees must not be chopped.? The plane trees
in Alexandra Gardens must not be felled, I think the argumetns against
prevail entirely.

Do we know what the cost of the work to the man in Holland St. 's
house would be?? I mean, I do have?sympathy with anyone whose house
and?perhaps huge investment is?suffering from soil movement - but we
don't have to agree to chop trees.? We can: either give the council
enough arguments to fight off the houseowners' insurers, by makign it
clear that the trees cannot be blamed for this, sicne they have
co-existed with the houses for 100years at least,but the clay can be
and that other factors,- climate,?water mains bursting and brick pit
behaviour - will very certainly ahve influenced the soil movement.
That being the case, no tree can be found guilty.
We need a 'beyond all reasonable doubt' for the trees.

Could we agree that the Alexandra Gardens trees should simply not be
felled, and other solutions found, including, as I think, that we find
sources of funding to pay for the work to the house if the council
refuses to play ball, and that no trees on Midsummer common or Jesus
Green be felled for purely aesthetic reasons as present by teh council
.? I cannot believe that we are being ignored by the council.
Ok I hardly ever get to email and it is wonderful to find you all out
there saying and doing things, my phone os 07847922023, and I would
like to see a petition or a lshort letter sent out to all people in
Cambridge at least, about the Alexandra Gardens trees, - this because
of the time factor and they being so precious to so many locally.

I am horrified to find out about the Jesus Green etc. plans, and
wonder what we can do to stop them, only I have to focus right now on
the Gardens. I live on Vicotria Road, 103, in fact, and am so happy to
hear all you people being tree defenders.

I suspect that some people may want to sit in trees to rpevent felling
when push comes to shove as it were, and that we shoudl also have tree
parties, with local schoolchildren also, to celebrate these trees, all
of them and to come and sit under them and be motivated to take
positive action towards saving them. They?can't save themselves....
eheu
Joanna

????? Joanna

________________________________
From: Ellie Stoneley <elliestoneley at googlemail.com>
To: SOS Cambridge discussion list <discuss at soscambridge.org.uk>
Sent: Thu, 23 September, 2010 14:55:26
Subject: Re: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree
planting plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common

I would second that ...
just fyi - I have 'tweeted' about this and the meeting tonight from
@FofSC the Friends of Stourbridge Common twitter account and also
featured it on our new website please could you note the new website
address ... forward me links to your sites as you would like and any
other local news you would like including
http://stourbridgecommon.wordpress.com
good luck tonight - I can't make it due to long standing commitment
but would add my voice to those already shouting about trees going out
of fashion and so on ... there are not enough trees in Cambridge as it
is
all the best
Ellie

On 23 September 2010 13:20, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on felling perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>
> For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ? simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.
>
> With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.
>
>
> The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>
>
>
> Best wishes
>
>
> Anne
>
>
> On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> > Anne
> > Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
> > midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
> > The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
> > of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
> > We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
> > replacement numbers.
> >
> > So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
> > Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
> > prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
> > Let's be positive.
> > Yrs
> > Peter
> >
> > On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
> >> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a form
> >> of madness.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
> >>> Area Committee on
> >>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
> >>> developed by the council.
> >>>
> >>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.
> >>>
> >>> The meeting details are here:
> >>>
> >>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>
> >>> ht
> >>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
> >>>
> >>> John Lawton
> >>> SOS Chair
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>> Save Our green Spaces
> >>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> discuss mailing list
> >>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> >>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> discuss mailing list
> >> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> >> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> >>
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > discuss mailing list
> > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>
> _______________________________________________
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>



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+44 (0) 7989 978763
@e11ie5 on Twitter

I am fundraising for the Kitchen Table Charities Trust - please do
consider donating at http://www.justgiving.com/elliestoneley thank you
- my target is to raise ?5,000

http://mymadagascarblog.wordpress.com
The story of my Madagascar adventure - how a trip to the theatre 2
days after I came out of hospital in January 2010, led to being
thwarted by a volcano in April and a trip to face giant, huge and
enormous spiders, a police mutiny, being attacked by a leech, broken
down trucks and crying with sadness at the plight of so many - and in
doing so helping people living in extreme poverty in one of the
poorest countries of the world.

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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Sat Sep 25 15:21:08 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 15:21:08 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Fwd: Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree
 planting plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTino0H7-ifcwXy4AAg2knwN=ADVYjn8DWDqYZzvd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C8C3C3E4.4332%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>



I think this native species argument is specious .  Many of the trees we
admire are not native. Horse chestnuts for instance were I introduced only
in the last century, around the same time as Leylandii.There is a very good
reason to have dense conifers around the swimming pool as swimmers appear to
agree . They are a windbreak , provide privacy and a sound barrier against
the skatepark. Reduce them yes but if you get rid of them, the whole pool
will be exposed for ages. These trees can be readily trimmed and reduced by
a half if need be, why kill them?

The conifers at the corner of  Park Parade are to be axed. Why? They provide
shade for players ( I play there and they?re very welcome) a screen against
those over-high flats behind and smell nice. They are green and peaceful and
alive and flourishing despite one of them losing a branch. The judgement of
Ms. Oviatt Hamm that they are ? ill formed? is just the kind of aesthetic no
one wants. She has decided on limes for that corner . That?s a mistake
because 
1. they won?t be big enough for decades to cover the brick backdrop
2. they drop secretions on the tennis courts

She assured us at the meeting that regular clean ups would be instituted.
Are you confident that this will happen? And why remove healthy trees even
if they?re not a fashionable ? People in the past put them there and thought
they evenutally would look nice. They do. We are being brainwashed into
thinking of them as unwelcome intruders and a ?mistake?? . If they provide a
green screen, provide a function are not interfering with anyone and
flourishing why is no one standing up for them? I think it will be a
wasteful shame to chop them down, and indeed those around the swimming pool
which could be managed much more cheaply ? however strangely money doesn?t
seem to come into this as they have ?50K to ?spend?and no one wanted their
grandiose chop and plant schemes so they?ve left taking it out on the poor
old conifers. I say no.


On 25/9/10 14:35, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:

> Slight correction. Trees at swimming pool are not to be 'chopped".
> Consultation referred to leylandii hedge and proposal is "to plant to
> the front,bulking up the hedge with a native specie
> hedge, followed by a phased removal of the leylandii" (presumably
> after the new one provides cover).  Hope this helps.
> Peter
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Joanna Gordon Clark <skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk>
> Date: 24 September 2010 18:25
> Subject: Re: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree
> planting plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
> To: SOS Cambridge discussion list <discuss at soscambridge.org.uk>
> 
> 
> Adding my name and voice to your list.? Can't believe they are gong to
> chop the swimming pool trees, yes it is absolute madness.? Uniformity
> is not wanted and healthy trees must not be chopped.? The plane trees
> in Alexandra Gardens must not be felled, I think the argumetns against
> prevail entirely.
> 
> Do we know what the cost of the work to the man in Holland St. 's
> house would be?? I mean, I do have?sympathy with anyone whose house
> and?perhaps huge investment is?suffering from soil movement - but we
> don't have to agree to chop trees.? We can: either give the council
> enough arguments to fight off the houseowners' insurers, by makign it
> clear that the trees cannot be blamed for this, sicne they have
> co-existed with the houses for 100years at least,but the clay can be
> and that other factors,- climate,?water mains bursting and brick pit
> behaviour - will very certainly ahve influenced the soil movement.
> That being the case, no tree can be found guilty.
> We need a 'beyond all reasonable doubt' for the trees.
> 
> Could we agree that the Alexandra Gardens trees should simply not be
> felled, and other solutions found, including, as I think, that we find
> sources of funding to pay for the work to the house if the council
> refuses to play ball, and that no trees on Midsummer common or Jesus
> Green be felled for purely aesthetic reasons as present by teh council
> .? I cannot believe that we are being ignored by the council.
> Ok I hardly ever get to email and it is wonderful to find you all out
> there saying and doing things, my phone os 07847922023, and I would
> like to see a petition or a lshort letter sent out to all people in
> Cambridge at least, about the Alexandra Gardens trees, - this because
> of the time factor and they being so precious to so many locally.
> 
> I am horrified to find out about the Jesus Green etc. plans, and
> wonder what we can do to stop them, only I have to focus right now on
> the Gardens. I live on Vicotria Road, 103, in fact, and am so happy to
> hear all you people being tree defenders.
> 
> I suspect that some people may want to sit in trees to rpevent felling
> when push comes to shove as it were, and that we shoudl also have tree
> parties, with local schoolchildren also, to celebrate these trees, all
> of them and to come and sit under them and be motivated to take
> positive action towards saving them. They?can't save themselves....
> eheu
> Joanna
> 
> ????? Joanna
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Ellie Stoneley <elliestoneley at googlemail.com>
> To: SOS Cambridge discussion list <discuss at soscambridge.org.uk>
> Sent: Thu, 23 September, 2010 14:55:26
> Subject: Re: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree
> planting plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
> 
> I would second that ...
> just fyi - I have 'tweeted' about this and the meeting tonight from
> @FofSC the Friends of Stourbridge Common twitter account and also
> featured it on our new website please could you note the new website
> address ... forward me links to your sites as you would like and any
> other local news you would like including
> http://stourbridgecommon.wordpress.com
> good luck tonight - I can't make it due to long standing commitment
> but would add my voice to those already shouting about trees going out
> of fashion and so on ... there are not enough trees in Cambridge as it
> is
> all the best
> Ellie
> 
> On 23 September 2010 13:20, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on felling
>> perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>> 
>> For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ?
>> simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.
>> 
>> With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the
>> tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one
>> was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two
>> types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the
>> conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.
>> 
>> 
>> The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good
>> sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the
>> view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Anne
>>> Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
>>> midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
>>> The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
>>> of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
>>> We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
>>> replacement numbers.
>>> 
>>> So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
>>> Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
>>> prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
>>> Let's be positive.
>>> Yrs
>>> Peter
>>> 
>>> On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
>>>> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a form
>>>> of madness.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>>>>> Area Committee on
>>>>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>>>>> developed by the council.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The meeting details are here:
>>>>> 
>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=50
>>>>> 2>
>>>>> ht
>>>>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>>>>> 
>>>>> John Lawton
>>>>> SOS Chair
>>>>> 
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Save Our green Spaces
>>>>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> discuss mailing list
>>>>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> discuss mailing list
>>>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
> 
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> +44 (0) 7989 978763
> @e11ie5 on Twitter
> 
> I am fundraising for the Kitchen Table Charities Trust - please do
> consider donating at http://www.justgiving.com/elliestoneley thank you
> - my target is to raise ?5,000
> 
> http://mymadagascarblog.wordpress.com
> The story of my Madagascar adventure - how a trip to the theatre 2
> days after I came out of hospital in January 2010, led to being
> thwarted by a volcano in April and a trip to face giant, huge and
> enormous spiders, a police mutiny, being attacked by a leech, broken
> down trucks and crying with sadness at the plight of so many - and in
> doing so helping people living in extreme poverty in one of the
> poorest countries of the world.
> 
> -
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> named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate,
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From chair at soscambridge.org.uk  Thu Sep  9 07:33:01 2010
From: chair at soscambridge.org.uk (John Lawton)
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 07:33:01 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Urgent  - tree questionnaire
Message-ID: <20100909073248.XWRG22376.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>

Hi,

You may have already heard about the consultation on plans for new 
planting, and some felling of trees on Midsummer Common and Jesus Green.
There is an online questionnaire or a document can be downloaded and completed.

See the council webpage:

http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/ccm/content/planning-and-building-control/historic-environment-and-trees/trees-and-tree-works/tree-planting-proposals-consultation.en

Just to remind you that the deadline to respond is noon this Friday!

The analysis and planting scheme will be presented to West/Central 
Area Committee at a special Environmental Improvement Programme 
meeting held on 23 September 2010 in the committee rooms at the 
Guildhall at 7.30pm.

John Lawton
SOS Chair

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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep  9 11:32:47 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 11:32:47 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Urgent  - tree questionnaire
In-Reply-To: <20100909073248.XWRG22376.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>
Message-ID: <C8AE765F.4105%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Hello there

I think the questionnaire is marginally mad. It says the ?planting? scheme (
which is actually a lot of felling) main aim is to ?restore historic
boundaries.?
Er, what are the historic boundaries for a start, and why frankly do they
need ?restoring?. I don?t get it.

Note that there are alarming options to axe entire avenues of trees. I
discussed this with the Council in their Consultation Tent. They said it was
, and this is absolutely accurate ? like Capability Brown ? or those
Victorians who cut down a lot of trees for their scheme?

Personally I would like them to forget about historic boundaries, stop these
proposals to chop down healthy trees ? axeing the copper beeches would this
woman on JG Council tent told me ? create a uniform green coherent  line?.
It is such rubbish.  They?re very keen on uniformity, smaller and different
trees have to do and as for Leylandi, even the ones that afford real
protection for the Pool are to be axed altogether.

I dislike their use of language. I have never heard trees described as
?coherent? before and the word ?rationalise? spelled in that American way,
has me baffled. 

Can they not return to their role as park keepers forget all about
Capability Brown and just plant new trees when the old ones die.

They?ve had ?500 for three years from the Electricity Board to replace a
Plane Tree but strangely haven?t got around to doing that.


On 9/9/10 07:33, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> You may have already heard about the consultation on plans for new
> planting, and some felling of trees on Midsummer Common and Jesus Green.
> There is an online questionnaire or a document can be downloaded and
> completed.
> 
> See the council webpage:
> 
> http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/ccm/content/planning-and-building-control/historic
> -environment-and-trees/trees-and-tree-works/tree-planting-proposals-consultati
> on.en
> 
> Just to remind you that the deadline to respond is noon this Friday!
> 
> The analysis and planting scheme will be presented to West/Central
> Area Committee at a special Environmental Improvement Programme
> meeting held on 23 September 2010 in the committee rooms at the
> Guildhall at 7.30pm.
> 
> John Lawton
> SOS Chair
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Save Our green Spaces
> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
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> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From chair at soscambridge.org.uk  Sun Sep 19 18:34:04 2010
From: chair at soscambridge.org.uk (John Lawton)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:34:04 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Urgent! - Trees in Alexandra Gardens in danger of felling
 by council
Message-ID: <20100919183301.SYUC22376.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>

Hello,

I though that you should know about the threat to fell a number of 
mature plane trees in this lovely green space off Chesterton 
Road.  There is nothing wrong with the trees, but they are blamed for 
causing structural damage to a nearby property.

See the SOS Cambridge website for more details: 
<http://soscambridge.org.uk/>http://soscambridge.org.uk/

If you find the idea of felling these lovely trees abhorrent, please 
write in protest at the proposed actions.  It is possible to send in 
submissions up to the 21st (Tuesday) and the planning meeting will be 
held on the 22nd September at the Guildhall to recommend the fate of the trees.

Details of all the email contacts are also on the website above.

Regards,

John Lawton
SOS Chair

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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Mon Sep 20 10:42:01 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:42:01 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Urgent! - Trees in Alexandra Gardens in danger of
 felling by council
In-Reply-To: <20100919183301.SYUC22376.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>
Message-ID: <C8BCEAF9.420C%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Thanks John, have written in.

Also asking an FOI question about the cost of the ridiculous 'survey'
they've just concluded using a Yorkshire based PR company


Yours A.


On 19/9/10 18:34, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I though that you should know about the threat to fell a number of
> mature plane trees in this lovely green space off Chesterton
> Road.  There is nothing wrong with the trees, but they are blamed for
> causing structural damage to a nearby property.
> 
> See the SOS Cambridge website for more details:
> <http://soscambridge.org.uk/>http://soscambridge.org.uk/
> 
> If you find the idea of felling these lovely trees abhorrent, please
> write in protest at the proposed actions.  It is possible to send in
> submissions up to the 21st (Tuesday) and the planning meeting will be
> held on the 22nd September at the Guildhall to recommend the fate of the
> trees.
> 
> Details of all the email contacts are also on the website above.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John Lawton
> SOS Chair
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Save Our green Spaces
> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
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> 
> 
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From S.Norton at dpmms.cam.ac.uk  Mon Sep 20 18:18:20 2010
From: S.Norton at dpmms.cam.ac.uk (Simon Norton)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:18:20 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens
Message-ID: <E1Oxk0S-0001LU-Qu@gallinule.dpmms.cam.ac.uk>

According to the SOS website the tree felling will not be discussed at
tomorrow's committee meeting. This presumably means that we have more time to
prepare our objections -- can someone confirm ?

I may need this extra time as it isn't clear from anything I've seen so far what
we should be proposing as an alternative to felling the trees. Can someone
elucidate ?

Incidentally I live near enough to have had an official notice about the
felling of the trees. But I don't feel I understand the issues well enough to be
able to prepare an objection without guidance.

 Simon Norton, 6 Hertford St




From rcantrill at millingtonadvisory.com  Mon Sep 20 18:46:47 2010
From: rcantrill at millingtonadvisory.com (Rod Cantrill)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:46:47 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens
In-Reply-To: <E1Oxk0S-0001LU-Qu@gallinule.dpmms.cam.ac.uk>
References: <E1Oxk0S-0001LU-Qu@gallinule.dpmms.cam.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <32B9C27B1C38EF4690DCFAF696669B1B1536D9@mil-sbs.millington.local>

I can confirm that I have asked officers top defer the item until the
October Planning meeting so that residents are able to consider and
comment on the proposals properly and to enable ward councillors and
myself to discuss with residents their concerns

Regards 

Rod Cantrill

Cllr Rod Cantrill
Ward Councillor Newnham 
Executive Councillor
Arts & Recreation
Cambridge City Council 
Tel: +44 7919103865
E-mail: rcantrill at millingtonadvisory.com



 

-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces at soscambridge.org.uk
[mailto:discuss-bounces at soscambridge.org.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Norton
Sent: 20 September 2010 18:18
To: discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens

According to the SOS website the tree felling will not be discussed at
tomorrow's committee meeting. This presumably means that we have more
time to
prepare our objections -- can someone confirm ?

I may need this extra time as it isn't clear from anything I've seen so
far what
we should be proposing as an alternative to felling the trees. Can
someone
elucidate ?

Incidentally I live near enough to have had an official notice about the
felling of the trees. But I don't feel I understand the issues well
enough to be
able to prepare an objection without guidance.

 Simon Norton, 6 Hertford St


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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Tue Sep 21 10:40:31 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:40:31 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens
In-Reply-To: <32B9C27B1C38EF4690DCFAF696669B1B1536D9@mil-sbs.millington.local>
Message-ID: <C8BE3C1F.423F%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Excellent.There are some huge questions here affecting the future of all
trees, claims for subsidence and other tremendously important factors.


On 20/9/10 18:46, "Rod Cantrill" <rcantrill at millingtonadvisory.com> wrote:

> I can confirm that I have asked officers top defer the item until the
> October Planning meeting so that residents are able to consider and
> comment on the proposals properly and to enable ward councillors and
> myself to discuss with residents their concerns
> 
> Regards 
> 
> Rod Cantrill
> 
> Cllr Rod Cantrill
> Ward Councillor Newnham
> Executive Councillor
> Arts & Recreation
> Cambridge City Council
> Tel: +44 7919103865
> E-mail: rcantrill at millingtonadvisory.com
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces at soscambridge.org.uk
> [mailto:discuss-bounces at soscambridge.org.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Norton
> Sent: 20 September 2010 18:18
> To: discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens
> 
> According to the SOS website the tree felling will not be discussed at
> tomorrow's committee meeting. This presumably means that we have more
> time to
> prepare our objections -- can someone confirm ?
> 
> I may need this extra time as it isn't clear from anything I've seen so
> far what
> we should be proposing as an alternative to felling the trees. Can
> someone
> elucidate ?
> 
> Incidentally I live near enough to have had an official notice about the
> felling of the trees. But I don't feel I understand the issues well
> enough to be
> able to prepare an objection without guidance.
> 
>  Simon Norton, 6 Hertford St
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> 
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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Tue Sep 21 10:45:43 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:45:43 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens
In-Reply-To: <E1Oxk0S-0001LU-Qu@gallinule.dpmms.cam.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <C8BE3D57.4243%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Yes I agree, we must marshall the doubtless interesting arguments, ours
cannot be the single instance of this happening but it is frankly absolutely
typical of this administration to rush to the felling option first, headed
by Mrs. Oviat Hamm.


On 20/9/10 18:18, "Simon Norton" <S.Norton at dpmms.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> According to the SOS website the tree felling will not be discussed at
> tomorrow's committee meeting. This presumably means that we have more time to
> prepare our objections -- can someone confirm ?
> 
> I may need this extra time as it isn't clear from anything I've seen so far
> what
> we should be proposing as an alternative to felling the trees. Can someone
> elucidate ?
> 
> Incidentally I live near enough to have had an official notice about the
> felling of the trees. But I don't feel I understand the issues well enough to
> be
> able to prepare an objection without guidance.
> 
>  Simon Norton, 6 Hertford St
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
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From aeh1 at hermes.cam.ac.uk  Tue Sep 21 18:11:04 2010
From: aeh1 at hermes.cam.ac.uk (AE Hill)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:11:04 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens Tree Felling Proposals
Message-ID: <E1Oy6Mw-0005dZ-i5@ppsw-33.csi.cam.ac.uk>


Hello :

I have put together as an attachment a short relatively non-technical 
document about the scientific and logical issues behind the proposed 
tree felling in Alexandra Gardens for anyone who might wish to read 
it. The aim is to make people think about the often re-iterated 
statement by the Chief Arboricultural Officer (the form varies) to 
the effect that the trees have been shown to be the agent creating 
the subsidence upon which the felling proposal rests.

Until we see the independent surveyors report, which the Council 
officers have not yet released, it is impossible to judge the 'data' 
on which this conclusion is based. However, I have tried to show that 
it is not at all simple and that we should rid ourselves of the 
simple equation of (tree roots)=(serious water 
extraction)=(drying/subsidence)=(required felling) which seems to be 
axiomatic in the minds of many people.

Anyone really interested (and with a bit of time !) should read - or 
pick the relevant plums out of - the London Tree Officers Association 
report of 2008, which makes the case against blaming trees for too 
much of the subsidence in London and the role of the insurance 
companies (see relevant bits above, also).

Adrian Hill
29 Alpha Road
Cambridge CB4 3DQ 
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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Tue Sep 21 18:49:15 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:49:15 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens Tree Felling Proposals
In-Reply-To: <E1Oy6Mw-0005dZ-i5@ppsw-33.csi.cam.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <C8BEAEAB.4273%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Wow. This is such brilliantly written hot stuff, it absolutely challenges
the entire basis of their claim.

I have worried about Mrs.Oviatt Hamm for some time. Her plan to ?restore the
historic boundaries of Jesus Green? involves cutting down a lot of trees,
this is simply another example of someone who is not remotely on top of
their job.

Has anyone approached Dr.Oliver Rackham ( not that this scholarly and
convincing piece of analysis needs any back up ) but he is readily available
at Corpus and helped me with thoughts on London planes when I was
campaigning against the wholescale ?re-modelling? of Jesus Green last year.
Now dropped.

AG


On 21/9/10 18:11, "AE Hill" <aeh1 at hermes.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> 
> Hello :
> 
> I have put together as an attachment a short relatively non-technical document
> about the scientific and logical issues behind the proposed tree felling in
> Alexandra Gardens for anyone who might wish to read it. The aim is to make
> people think about the often re-iterated statement by the Chief Arboricultural
> Officer (the form varies) to the effect that the trees have been shown to be
> the agent creating the subsidence upon which the felling proposal rests.
> 
> Until we see the independent surveyors report, which the Council officers have
> not yet released, it is impossible to judge the 'data' on which this
> conclusion is based. However, I have tried to show that it is not at all
> simple and that we should rid ourselves of the simple equation of (tree
> roots)=(serious water extraction)=(drying/subsidence)=(required felling) which
> seems to be axiomatic in the minds of many people.
> 
> Anyone really interested (and with a bit of time !) should read - or pick the
> relevant plums out of - the London Tree Officers Association report of 2008,
> which makes the case against blaming trees for too much of the subsidence in
> London and the role of the insurance companies (see relevant bits above,
> also).
> 
> Adrian Hill
> 29 Alpha Road
> Cambridge CB4 3DQ
> 
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk


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From aeh1 at hermes.cam.ac.uk  Wed Sep 22 12:28:38 2010
From: aeh1 at hermes.cam.ac.uk (AE Hill)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:28:38 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens Tree Felling Proposals
In-Reply-To: <C8BEAEAB.4273%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
References: <E1Oy6Mw-0005dZ-i5@ppsw-33.csi.cam.ac.uk>
	<C8BEAEAB.4273%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <E1OyNV5-00056H-0C@ppsw-32.csi.cam.ac.uk>


Dear Anne,

I saw your letter about my screed - thank you for your kind comments. 
The aim was merely to get people to take a sceptical view of what the 
Council Officers say ! A bigger document is being prepared as a 
counterweight to Oviatt-Ham but this will take some time.

I do know Oliver as we both shared a room for many years in the 
Botany School (now Plant Sciences) but haven't spoken to him for 10 
years. Your contacting him about planes has spurred me to ask him 
about the proposals too - for that, thanks.

With kind regards,
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From margaret at corona4.fsnet.co.uk  Wed Sep 22 16:50:54 2010
From: margaret at corona4.fsnet.co.uk (Margaret Wright)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:50:54 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens Tree Felling Proposals
In-Reply-To: <E1OyNV5-00056H-0C@ppsw-32.csi.cam.ac.uk>
References: <E1Oy6Mw-0005dZ-i5@ppsw-33.csi.cam.ac.uk>
	<C8BEAEAB.4273%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
	<E1OyNV5-00056H-0C@ppsw-32.csi.cam.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <1819ED04D3A04AF7AE7D7FDD1D7B4ADA@margaretPC>

Just a note to say I was relieved that the application has been delayed and that more evidence will now be put before the committee,

Best wishes,

Margaret Wright
Member Planning Committee.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: AE Hill 
  To: margaret at corona4.fsnet.co.uk ; SOS Cambridge discussion list 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 12:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens Tree Felling Proposals



  Dear Anne,

  I saw your letter about my screed - thank you for your kind comments. The aim was merely to get people to take a sceptical view of what the Council Officers say ! A bigger document is being prepared as a counterweight to Oviatt-Ham but this will take some time.

  I do know Oliver as we both shared a room for many years in the Botany School (now Plant Sciences) but haven't spoken to him for 10 years. Your contacting him about planes has spurred me to ask him about the proposals too - for that, thanks.

  With kind regards,
  Adrian Hill. 


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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Wed Sep 22 17:59:03 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:59:03 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens Tree Felling Proposals
In-Reply-To: <E1OyNV5-00056H-0C@ppsw-32.csi.cam.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <C8BFF467.42B4%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Dear Dr.Hill,


I did really think your presentation was refreshingly direct and readable .
As a journalist, one sometimes despairs of material prepared for the public
and this was exceptionally lucid for us lay dullards. I am now completely
confident that sense will eventually prevail.

I am delighted that Oliver?s help with the last protest has somehow linked
you both again, united we stand.


Best wishes


Anne Garvey 18 Hertford Street


On 22/9/10 12:28, "AE Hill" <aeh1 at hermes.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> 
> Dear Anne,
> 
> I saw your letter about my screed - thank you for your kind comments. The aim
> was merely to get people to take a sceptical view of what the Council Officers
> say ! A bigger document is being prepared as a counterweight to Oviatt-Ham but
> this will take some time.
> 
> I do know Oliver as we both shared a room for many years in the Botany School
> (now Plant Sciences) but haven't spoken to him for 10 years. Your contacting
> him about planes has spurred me to ask him about the proposals too - for that,
> thanks.
> 
> With kind regards,
> Adrian Hill.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk


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From chair at soscambridge.org.uk  Wed Sep 22 21:35:03 2010
From: chair at soscambridge.org.uk (John Lawton)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:35:03 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
Message-ID: <20100922213503.XAHC1807.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>

Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central 
Area Committee on
Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans 
developed by the council.

The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.

The meeting details are here: 
<http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502 


Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!

John Lawton
SOS Chair

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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep 23 10:22:09 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:22:09 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <20100922213503.XAHC1807.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>
Message-ID: <C8C0DAD1.42C0%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a form
of madness.


On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:

> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
> Area Committee on
> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
> developed by the council.
> 
> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.
> 
> The meeting details are here:
> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>ht
> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
> 
> 
> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
> 
> John Lawton
> SOS Chair
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Save Our green Spaces
> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk

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From p.constable at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep 23 11:45:47 2010
From: p.constable at ntlworld.com (CONSTABLE PETER)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:45:47 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <C8C0DAD1.42C0%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
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	<C8C0DAD1.42C0%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
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Anne
Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
replacement numbers.

So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
Let's be positive.
Yrs
Peter

On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a form
> of madness.
>
>
> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>> Area Committee on
>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>> developed by the council.
>>
>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.
>>
>> The meeting details are here:
>>
>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>ht
>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>>
>>
>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>>
>> John Lawton
>> SOS Chair
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> Save Our green Spaces
>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> discuss mailing list
>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>
>



From cartoons at andydavey.com  Thu Sep 23 11:58:02 2010
From: cartoons at andydavey.com (Andy Davey)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:58:02 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
	plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <20100922213503.XAHC1807.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>
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Message-ID: <006a01cb5b0e$32cbd500$98637f00$@com>

Will try to be there
Andy
e: mailto:cartoons at andydavey.com


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Cc: discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting plans on Jesus Green and
Midsummer Common

Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central 
Area Committee on
Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans 
developed by the council.

The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.

The meeting details are here: 
<http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>http://www.cambridge.gov
.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502 


Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!

John Lawton
SOS Chair

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http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep 23 13:20:52 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:20:52 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimbqJLcJEGVNfhZ0=S+UuRCHwSdYBifvHYpswr9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C8C104B4.42D7%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on
felling perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.

For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ?
simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.

With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the
tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one
was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two
types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the
conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.


The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good
sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the
view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.



Best wishes


Anne


On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:

> Anne
> Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
> midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
> The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
> of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
> We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
> replacement numbers.
> 
> So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
> Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
> prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
> Let's be positive.
> Yrs
> Peter
> 
> On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
>> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a form
>> of madness.
>> 
>> 
>> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>> 
>>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>>> Area Committee on
>>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>>> developed by the council.
>>> 
>>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.
>>> 
>>> The meeting details are here:
>>> 
>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>
>>> ht
>>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>>> 
>>> John Lawton
>>> SOS Chair
>>> 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>> Save Our green Spaces
>>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> discuss mailing list
>>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> discuss mailing list
>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>> 
>> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From p.constable at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep 23 13:41:27 2010
From: p.constable at ntlworld.com (peter constable)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:41:27 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
	plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <C8C104B4.42D7%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
References: <C8C104B4.42D7%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <6860BE9C-A921-4BBD-BB77-1E94613805B7@ntlworld.com>

Anne
The copper beech close to my house and the one at the corner of Park  
Parade and lower park Street are not now on the "felling" list.
Of the 5 on the list three are the leylandii by La Mimosa and two are  
small beeches by Jesus Brook. I have proposals for both of these.
More tonight....
Peter
On 23 Sep 2010, at 13:20, Anne Garvey wrote:

> Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance  
> on felling perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer  
> fashionable.
>
> For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for  
> the axe ? simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a  
> green line of trees.
>
> With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside  
> the tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good  
> reason, and no one was given any option on that ? choice on that  
> questionnaire was between two types of replacement hedge. Like the  
> majority of swimmers, I feel the conifers by the pool are a useful  
> screen for privacy and for wind.
>
>
> The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for  
> good sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and  
> certainly the view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy  
> adopted.
>
>
>
> Best wishes
>
>
> Anne
>
>
> On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> > Anne
> > Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
> > midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus  
> Green.
> > The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large  
> percentage
> > of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
> > We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
> > replacement numbers.
> >
> > So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
> > Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
> > prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
> > Let's be positive.
> > Yrs
> > Peter
> >
> > On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com>  
> wrote:
> >> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to  
> provide
> >> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which  
> is a form
> >> of madness.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
> >>> Area Committee on
> >>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting  
> plans
> >>> developed by the council.
> >>>
> >>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in  
> Cambridge.
> >>>
> >>> The meeting details are here:
> >>>
> >>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502 
> >
> >>> ht
> >>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
> >>>
> >>> John Lawton
> >>> SOS Chair
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>> Save Our green Spaces
> >>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> discuss mailing list
> >>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> >>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> discuss mailing list
> >> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> >> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> >>
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > discuss mailing list
> > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/ 
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From elliestoneley at googlemail.com  Thu Sep 23 14:55:26 2010
From: elliestoneley at googlemail.com (Ellie Stoneley)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:55:26 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <C8C104B4.42D7%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
References: <AANLkTimbqJLcJEGVNfhZ0=S+UuRCHwSdYBifvHYpswr9@mail.gmail.com>
	<C8C104B4.42D7%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
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I would second that ...

just fyi - I have 'tweeted' about this and the meeting tonight from @FofSC
the Friends of Stourbridge Common twitter account and also featured it on
our new website please could you note the new website address ... forward me
links to your sites as you would like and any other local news you would
like including
http://stourbridgecommon.wordpress.com

good luck tonight - I can't make it due to long standing commitment but
would add my voice to those already shouting about trees going out of
fashion and so on ... there are not enough trees in Cambridge as it is

all the best
Ellie

On 23 September 2010 13:20, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:

>  Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on
> felling perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>
> For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ?
> simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.
>
> With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the
> tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one
> was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two
> types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the
> conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.
>
>
> The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good
> sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the
> view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>
>
>
> Best wishes
>
>
> Anne
>
>
>
> On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> > Anne
> > Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
> > midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
> > The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
> > of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
> > We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
> > replacement numbers.
> >
> > So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
> > Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
> > prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
> > Let's be positive.
> > Yrs
> > Peter
> >
> > On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com>
> wrote:
> >> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
> >> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a
> form
> >> of madness.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
> >>> Area Committee on
> >>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
> >>> developed by the council.
> >>>
> >>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in
> Cambridge.
> >>>
> >>> The meeting details are here:
> >>>
> >>>
> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502><http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>
> >>> ht
> >>> tp://
> www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
> >>>
> >>> John Lawton
> >>> SOS Chair
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>> Save Our green Spaces
> >>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> discuss mailing list
> >>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> >>>
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> discuss mailing list
> >> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> >> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> >>
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > discuss mailing list
> > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>
>


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From pale.aquamarine at googlemail.com  Thu Sep 23 15:16:51 2010
From: pale.aquamarine at googlemail.com (Lisa Buchholz)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:16:51 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikxcb=XjHUoAkD-AyUmmpWBNnWTW=x+NfSHtVvq@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimbqJLcJEGVNfhZ0=S+UuRCHwSdYBifvHYpswr9@mail.gmail.com>
	<C8C104B4.42D7%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
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Ellie - thanks so much - I saw that that you had sent that out.  I'm
planning to go - people are hysterical about the tree 'cull' going on!  I am
so with you on lack of trees (in UK in general I think!).  I always think
how much nicer my street would look if had about 10 big trees on it!

BTW - this is the thing I was thinking of going to at the ADC - what do you
think?  too weird?  There are some other things on but hard to get a grip on
from website; brochure is better.....

The Fire Within
by Patrick Garety
*Tuesday 19th October - Saturday 23rd October*
?10-?6

 The fires will be burning in the streets of Udaipur tonight.The British Raj
in India is coming to an end.In the twilight of history, an entrenched
colonial family prepares its last supper.

Eve has been missing all day. On the eve of James? departure for England,
the family gathers for a final farewell. Tempers fray as the oppressive heat
of day climaxes in the stifling darkness of the Indian night. Someone is
harbouring a dark secret. Outside, a storm is brewing. This poignant
snapshot of a decaying empire is a pertinent reminder of the bonds of
family, the power of love, and the struggle for identity that burns
within. Nothing
is ever really yours here. No matter how many times we stamp things, nothing
is really British. Patrick Garety?s lyrical new play comes to the ADC in a
haunting and evocative production which celebrates the fervour of youth, and
how the choices of a moment can shape our lives.

Have a look and see if other things interest?  I decided there was nothing
really at the Arts that got me going.


Lisa


On 23 September 2010 14:55, Ellie Stoneley <elliestoneley at googlemail.com>wrote:

> I would second that ...
>
> just fyi - I have 'tweeted' about this and the meeting tonight from @FofSC
> the Friends of Stourbridge Common twitter account and also featured it on
> our new website please could you note the new website address ... forward me
> links to your sites as you would like and any other local news you would
> like including
> http://stourbridgecommon.wordpress.com
>
> good luck tonight - I can't make it due to long standing commitment but
> would add my voice to those already shouting about trees going out of
> fashion and so on ... there are not enough trees in Cambridge as it is
>
> all the best
> Ellie
>
>
> On 23 September 2010 13:20, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>  Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on
>> felling perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>>
>> For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe
>> ? simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of
>> trees.
>>
>> With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the
>> tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one
>> was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two
>> types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the
>> conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.
>>
>>
>> The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good
>> sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the
>> view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>>
>> Anne
>>
>>
>>
>> On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Anne
>> > Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
>> > midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
>> > The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
>> > of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
>> > We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
>> > replacement numbers.
>> >
>> > So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
>> > Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
>> > prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
>> > Let's be positive.
>> > Yrs
>> > Peter
>> >
>> > On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to
>> provide
>> >> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a
>> form
>> >> of madness.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>> >>> Area Committee on
>> >>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>> >>> developed by the council.
>> >>>
>> >>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in
>> Cambridge.
>> >>>
>> >>> The meeting details are here:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502><http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>
>> >>> ht
>> >>> tp://
>> www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>> >>>
>> >>> John Lawton
>> >>> SOS Chair
>> >>>
>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> >>> Save Our green Spaces
>> >>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep 23 15:36:20 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:36:20 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <6860BE9C-A921-4BBD-BB77-1E94613805B7@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <C8C12474.42E9%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Well that is a relief ? but imagine the mentality of even proposing to cut
them down, that?s what we?re dealing with.

As for the Leylandii, they are clearly a nuisance in gardens  but have their
uses when it comes to open spaces. I like them and so did the people who
planted them, they smell nice and will look very bare if they?re gone.
Idiiotically they?re planning to replace them with limes which are famous
for dropping sticky substances all over the place, las thing you need on a
tennis court, the new ones will be plagued by the secretions, ridiculous
costly and pointless idea.

See you this evening

A.


On 23/9/10 13:41, "peter constable" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:

> Anne
> The copper beech close to my house and the one at the corner of Park Parade
> and lower park Street are not now on the "felling" list.
> Of the 5 on the list three are the leylandii by La Mimosa and two are small
> beeches by Jesus Brook. I have proposals for both of these.
> More tonight.... 
> Peter
> On 23 Sep 2010, at 13:20, Anne Garvey wrote:
> 
>>  Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on
>> felling perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>>  
>>  For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ?
>> simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.
>>  
>>  With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the
>> tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one
>> was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two
>> types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the
>> conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.
>>  
>>  
>>  The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good
>> sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the
>> view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  Best wishes
>>  
>>  
>>  Anne
>>  
>>  
>>  On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>  
>>>  > Anne
>>>  > Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
>>>  > midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
>>>  > The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
>>>  > of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
>>>  > We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
>>>  > replacement numbers.
>>>  > 
>>>  > So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
>>>  > Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
>>>  > prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
>>>  > Let's be positive.
>>>  > Yrs
>>>  > Peter
>>>  > 
>>>  > On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>  >> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to
>>>> provide
>>>>  >> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a
>>>> form
>>>>  >> of madness.
>>>>  >> 
>>>>  >> 
>>>>  >> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>  >> 
>>>>>  >>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>>>>>  >>> Area Committee on
>>>>>  >>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>>>>>  >>> developed by the council.
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in
>>>>> Cambridge.
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> The meeting details are here:
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=50
>>>>> 2> 
>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&amp;MI
>>>>> d=502> 
>>>>>  >>> ht
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&amp;MI
>>>>> d=502> 
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> John Lawton
>>>>>  >>> SOS Chair
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>  >>> Save Our green Spaces
>>>>>  >>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>>  >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>  >>> discuss mailing list
>>>>>  >>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>  >> 
>>>>  >> _______________________________________________
>>>>  >> discuss mailing list
>>>>  >> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>  >> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>  >> 
>>>>  >> 
>>>  > 
>>>  > _______________________________________________
>>>  > discuss mailing list
>>>  > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>  > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>   
>>   _______________________________________________
>> discuss mailing list
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>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> 
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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep 23 15:39:24 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:39:24 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikxcb=XjHUoAkD-AyUmmpWBNnWTW=x+NfSHtVvq@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C8C1252C.42EB%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Great, the zero tolerance is the only option in the face of this kind of
thinking.


On 23/9/10 14:55, "Ellie Stoneley" <elliestoneley at googlemail.com> wrote:

> I would second that ...?
> 
> just fyi - I have 'tweeted' about this and the meeting tonight from @FofSC the
> Friends of Stourbridge Common twitter account and also featured it on our new
> website please could you note the new website address ... forward me links to
> your sites as you would like and any other local news you would like including
> http://stourbridgecommon.wordpress.com
> 
> good luck tonight - I can't make it due to long standing commitment but would
> add my voice to those already shouting about trees going out of fashion and so
> on ... there are not enough trees in Cambridge as it is
> 
> all the best
> Ellie
> 
> On 23 September 2010 13:20, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on felling
>> perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>> 
>> For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ?
>> simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.
>> 
>> With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the
>> tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one
>> was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two
>> types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the
>> conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.
>> 
>> 
>> The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good
>> sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the
>> view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> > Anne
>>> > Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
>>> > midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
>>> > The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
>>> > of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
>>> > We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
>>> > replacement numbers.
>>> > 
>>> > So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
>>> > Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
>>> > prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
>>> > Let's be positive.
>>> > Yrs
>>> > Peter
>>> > 
>>> > On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>> >> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
>>>> >> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a
>>>> form
>>>> >> of madness.
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> >> 
>>>>> >>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>>>>> >>> Area Committee on
>>>>> >>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>>>>> >>> developed by the council.
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in
>>>>> Cambridge.
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> The meeting details are here:
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=50
>>>>> 2> 
>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&amp;MI
>>>>> d=502> 
>>>>> >>> ht
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&amp;MI
>>>>> d=502> 
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> John Lawton
>>>>> >>> SOS Chair
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> >>> Save Our green Spaces
>>>>> >>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >>> discuss mailing list
>>>>> >>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>> >> discuss mailing list
>>>> >> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> >> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> 
>>> > 
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > discuss mailing list
>>> > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>> > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> discuss mailing list
>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>> 
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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep 23 15:41:03 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:41:03 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=BTSU+39QWt-vq_Sc55Paa9P4X19AG-mQx6UkQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C8C1258F.42EC%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Well we would love ten trees on Hertford Street, it?s so bleak in winter,
just re-locate them here. Or perhaps we could five each.

I think the reaction is so well founded. How about a vote of No Confidence
in the Tree Officer?


On 23/9/10 15:16, "Lisa Buchholz" <pale.aquamarine at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Ellie - thanks so much - I saw that that you had sent that out.? I'm planning
> to go - people are hysterical about the tree 'cull' going on!? I am so with
> you on lack of trees (in UK in general I think!).? I always think how much
> nicer my street would look if had about 10 big trees on it!
> 
> BTW - this is the thing I was thinking of going to at the ADC - what do you
> think?? too weird?? There are some other things on but hard to get a grip on
> from website; brochure is better.....
> 
> The Fire Within
> by Patrick Garety
> Tuesday 19th October - Saturday 23rd October
> ?10-?6 
> 
> The fires will be burning in the streets of Udaipur tonight.The British Raj in
> India is coming to an end.In the twilight of history, an entrenched colonial
> family prepares its last supper.
> 
> Eve has been missing all day. On the eve of James? departure for England, the
> family gathers for a final farewell. Tempers fray as the oppressive heat of
> day climaxes in the stifling darkness of the Indian night. Someone is
> harbouring a dark secret. Outside, a storm is brewing. This poignant snapshot
> of a decaying empire is a pertinent reminder of the bonds of family, the power
> of love, and the struggle for identity that burns within. Nothing is ever
> really yours here. No matter how many times we stamp things, nothing is really
> British. Patrick Garety?s lyrical new play comes to the ADC in a haunting and
> evocative production which celebrates the fervour of youth, and how the
> choices of a moment can shape our lives.
> 
> Have a look and see if other things interest?? I decided there was nothing
> really at the Arts that got me going.
> 
> 
> Lisa
> 
> 
> On 23 September 2010 14:55, Ellie Stoneley <elliestoneley at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>> I would second that ...?
>> 
>> just fyi - I have 'tweeted' about this and the meeting tonight from @FofSC
>> the Friends of Stourbridge Common twitter account and also featured it on our
>> new website please could you note the new website address ... forward me
>> links to your sites as you would like and any other local news you would like
>> including
>> http://stourbridgecommon.wordpress.com
>> 
>> good luck tonight - I can't make it due to long standing commitment but would
>> add my voice to those already shouting about trees going out of fashion and
>> so on ... there are not enough trees in Cambridge as it is
>> 
>> all the best
>> Ellie
>> 
>> 
>> On 23 September 2010 13:20, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on
>>> felling perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>>> 
>>> For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ?
>>> simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.
>>> 
>>> With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the
>>> tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one
>>> was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two
>>> types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the
>>> conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good
>>> sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the
>>> view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best wishes
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> > Anne
>>>> > Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
>>>> > midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
>>>> > The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
>>>> > of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
>>>> > We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
>>>> > replacement numbers.
>>>> > 
>>>> > So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
>>>> > Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
>>>> > prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
>>>> > Let's be positive.
>>>> > Yrs
>>>> > Peter
>>>> > 
>>>> > On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to
>>>>> provide
>>>>> >> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a
>>>>> form
>>>>> >> of madness.
>>>>> >> 
>>>>> >> 
>>>>> >> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>> >> 
>>>>>> >>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>>>>>> >>> Area Committee on
>>>>>> >>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>>>>>> >>> developed by the council.
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in
>>>>>> Cambridge.
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> The meeting details are here:
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=5
>>>>>> 02> 
>>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&amp;M
>>>>>> Id=502> 
>>>>>> >>> ht
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&amp;M
>>>>>> Id=502> 
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> John Lawton
>>>>>> >>> SOS Chair
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> >>> Save Our green Spaces
>>>>>> >>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> >>> discuss mailing list
>>>>>> >>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>> >> 
>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >> discuss mailing list
>>>>> >> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>> >> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>> >> 
>>>>> >> 
>>>> > 
>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>> > discuss mailing list
>>>> > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> discuss mailing list
>>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>> 
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From chair at soscambridge.org.uk  Fri Sep 24 12:38:20 2010
From: chair at soscambridge.org.uk (John Lawton)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:38:20 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Consultation on city allotments - ends today
Message-ID: <20100924123752.JUPJ12520.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>

Sorry about the very short notice, but this online consultation on 
city allotments ends today:

<http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/ccm/content/leisure-and-entertainment/allotments/allotment-management-policy-consultation.en>http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/ccm/content/leisure-and-entertainment/allotments/allotment-management-policy-consultation.en 


John Lawton
SOS Chair

---------------------------------------------------------
Save Our green Spaces
http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
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From skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Sep 24 18:25:07 2010
From: skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk (Joanna Gordon Clark)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 17:25:07 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
	plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikxcb=XjHUoAkD-AyUmmpWBNnWTW=x+NfSHtVvq@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimbqJLcJEGVNfhZ0=S+UuRCHwSdYBifvHYpswr9@mail.gmail.com>
	<C8C104B4.42D7%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
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Message-ID: <267517.39493.qm@web29718.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Adding my name and voice to your list.? Can't believe they are gong to chop the 
swimming pool trees, yes it is absolute madness.? Uniformity is not wanted and 
healthy trees must not be chopped.? The plane trees in Alexandra Gardens must 
not be felled, I think the argumetns against prevail entirely.

Do we know what the cost of the work to the man in Holland St. 's house would 
be?? I mean, I do have?sympathy with anyone whose house and?perhaps huge 
investment is?suffering from soil movement - but we don't have to agree to chop 
trees.? We can: either give the council enough arguments to fight off the 
houseowners' insurers, by makign it clear that the trees cannot be blamed for 
this, sicne they have co-existed with the houses for 100years at least,but the 
clay can be and that other factors,- climate,?water mains bursting and brick pit 
behaviour - will very certainly ahve influenced the soil movement.? That being 
the case, no tree can be found guilty.
We need a 'beyond all reasonable doubt' for the trees.

Could we agree that the Alexandra Gardens trees should simply not be felled, and 
other solutions found, including, as I think, that we find sources of funding to 
pay for the work to the house if the council refuses to play ball, and that no 
trees on Midsummer common or Jesus Green be felled for purely aesthetic reasons 
as present by teh council .? I cannot believe that we are being ignored by the 
council. 

Ok I hardly ever get to email and it is wonderful to find you all out there 
saying and doing things, my phone os 07847922023, and I would like to see a 
petition or a lshort letter sent out to all people in Cambridge at least, about 
the Alexandra Gardens trees, - this because of the time factor and they being so 
precious to so many locally.

I am horrified to find out about the Jesus Green etc. plans, and wonder what we 
can do to stop them, only I have to focus right now on the Gardens. I live on 
Vicotria Road, 103, in fact, and am so happy to hear all you people being tree 
defenders.

I suspect that some people may want to sit in trees to rpevent felling when push 
comes to shove as it were, and that we shoudl also have tree parties, with local 
schoolchildren also, to celebrate these trees, all of them and to come and sit 
under them and be motivated to take positive action towards saving them. 
They?can't save themselves.... eheu
Joanna?
?????? Joanna 




________________________________
From: Ellie Stoneley <elliestoneley at googlemail.com>
To: SOS Cambridge discussion list <discuss at soscambridge.org.uk>
Sent: Thu, 23 September, 2010 14:55:26
Subject: Re: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting 
plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common

I would second that ...? 

just fyi - I have 'tweeted' about this and the meeting tonight from @FofSC the 
Friends of Stourbridge Common twitter account and also featured it on our new 
website please could you note the new website address ... forward me links to 
your sites as you would like and any other local news you would like including
http://stourbridgecommon.wordpress.com

good luck tonight - I can't make it due to long standing commitment but would 
add my voice to those already shouting about trees going out of fashion and so 
on ... there are not enough trees in Cambridge as it is

all the best
Ellie


On 23 September 2010 13:20, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:

Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on felling 
perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>
>For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ? 
>simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.
>
>With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the tennis 
>court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one was given 
>any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two types of 
>replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the conifers by the 
>pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind. 
>
>
>
>The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good sound 
>reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the view of 
>everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>
>
>
>Best wishes
>
>
>Anne 
>
>
>
>On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> Anne
>> Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
>> midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
>> The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
>> of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
>> We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
>> replacement numbers.
>> 
>> So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
>> Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
>> prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
>> Let's be positive.
>> Yrs
>> Peter
>> 
>> On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
>>> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a form
>>> of madness.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>>>> Area Committee on
>>>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>>>> developed by the council.
>>>> 
>>>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.
>>>> 
>>>> The meeting details are here:
>>>> 
>>>> 
<http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>
>>>> ht
>>>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>>>> 
>>>> John Lawton
>>>> SOS Chair
>>>> 
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Save Our green Spaces
>>>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> discuss mailing list
>>>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> discuss mailing list
>>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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From p.constable at ntlworld.com  Sat Sep 25 14:35:06 2010
From: p.constable at ntlworld.com (CONSTABLE PETER)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:35:06 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Fwd: Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
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Slight correction. Trees at swimming pool are not to be 'chopped".
Consultation referred to leylandii hedge and proposal is "to plant to
the front,bulking up the hedge with a native specie
hedge, followed by a phased removal of the leylandii" (presumably
after the new one provides cover).  Hope this helps.
Peter
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Joanna Gordon Clark <skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk>
Date: 24 September 2010 18:25
Subject: Re: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree
planting plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
To: SOS Cambridge discussion list <discuss at soscambridge.org.uk>


Adding my name and voice to your list.? Can't believe they are gong to
chop the swimming pool trees, yes it is absolute madness.? Uniformity
is not wanted and healthy trees must not be chopped.? The plane trees
in Alexandra Gardens must not be felled, I think the argumetns against
prevail entirely.

Do we know what the cost of the work to the man in Holland St. 's
house would be?? I mean, I do have?sympathy with anyone whose house
and?perhaps huge investment is?suffering from soil movement - but we
don't have to agree to chop trees.? We can: either give the council
enough arguments to fight off the houseowners' insurers, by makign it
clear that the trees cannot be blamed for this, sicne they have
co-existed with the houses for 100years at least,but the clay can be
and that other factors,- climate,?water mains bursting and brick pit
behaviour - will very certainly ahve influenced the soil movement.
That being the case, no tree can be found guilty.
We need a 'beyond all reasonable doubt' for the trees.

Could we agree that the Alexandra Gardens trees should simply not be
felled, and other solutions found, including, as I think, that we find
sources of funding to pay for the work to the house if the council
refuses to play ball, and that no trees on Midsummer common or Jesus
Green be felled for purely aesthetic reasons as present by teh council
.? I cannot believe that we are being ignored by the council.
Ok I hardly ever get to email and it is wonderful to find you all out
there saying and doing things, my phone os 07847922023, and I would
like to see a petition or a lshort letter sent out to all people in
Cambridge at least, about the Alexandra Gardens trees, - this because
of the time factor and they being so precious to so many locally.

I am horrified to find out about the Jesus Green etc. plans, and
wonder what we can do to stop them, only I have to focus right now on
the Gardens. I live on Vicotria Road, 103, in fact, and am so happy to
hear all you people being tree defenders.

I suspect that some people may want to sit in trees to rpevent felling
when push comes to shove as it were, and that we shoudl also have tree
parties, with local schoolchildren also, to celebrate these trees, all
of them and to come and sit under them and be motivated to take
positive action towards saving them. They?can't save themselves....
eheu
Joanna

????? Joanna

________________________________
From: Ellie Stoneley <elliestoneley at googlemail.com>
To: SOS Cambridge discussion list <discuss at soscambridge.org.uk>
Sent: Thu, 23 September, 2010 14:55:26
Subject: Re: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree
planting plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common

I would second that ...
just fyi - I have 'tweeted' about this and the meeting tonight from
@FofSC the Friends of Stourbridge Common twitter account and also
featured it on our new website please could you note the new website
address ... forward me links to your sites as you would like and any
other local news you would like including
http://stourbridgecommon.wordpress.com
good luck tonight - I can't make it due to long standing commitment
but would add my voice to those already shouting about trees going out
of fashion and so on ... there are not enough trees in Cambridge as it
is
all the best
Ellie

On 23 September 2010 13:20, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on felling perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>
> For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ? simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.
>
> With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.
>
>
> The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>
>
>
> Best wishes
>
>
> Anne
>
>
> On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> > Anne
> > Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
> > midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
> > The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
> > of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
> > We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
> > replacement numbers.
> >
> > So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
> > Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
> > prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
> > Let's be positive.
> > Yrs
> > Peter
> >
> > On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
> >> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a form
> >> of madness.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
> >>> Area Committee on
> >>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
> >>> developed by the council.
> >>>
> >>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.
> >>>
> >>> The meeting details are here:
> >>>
> >>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>
> >>> ht
> >>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
> >>>
> >>> John Lawton
> >>> SOS Chair
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>> Save Our green Spaces
> >>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> discuss mailing list
> >>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> >>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> discuss mailing list
> >> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> >> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> >>
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > discuss mailing list
> > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>
> _______________________________________________
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>



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+44 (0) 7989 978763
@e11ie5 on Twitter

I am fundraising for the Kitchen Table Charities Trust - please do
consider donating at http://www.justgiving.com/elliestoneley thank you
- my target is to raise ?5,000

http://mymadagascarblog.wordpress.com
The story of my Madagascar adventure - how a trip to the theatre 2
days after I came out of hospital in January 2010, led to being
thwarted by a volcano in April and a trip to face giant, huge and
enormous spiders, a police mutiny, being attacked by a leech, broken
down trucks and crying with sadness at the plight of so many - and in
doing so helping people living in extreme poverty in one of the
poorest countries of the world.

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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Sat Sep 25 15:21:08 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 15:21:08 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Fwd: Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree
 planting plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTino0H7-ifcwXy4AAg2knwN=ADVYjn8DWDqYZzvd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C8C3C3E4.4332%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>



I think this native species argument is specious .  Many of the trees we
admire are not native. Horse chestnuts for instance were I introduced only
in the last century, around the same time as Leylandii.There is a very good
reason to have dense conifers around the swimming pool as swimmers appear to
agree . They are a windbreak , provide privacy and a sound barrier against
the skatepark. Reduce them yes but if you get rid of them, the whole pool
will be exposed for ages. These trees can be readily trimmed and reduced by
a half if need be, why kill them?

The conifers at the corner of  Park Parade are to be axed. Why? They provide
shade for players ( I play there and they?re very welcome) a screen against
those over-high flats behind and smell nice. They are green and peaceful and
alive and flourishing despite one of them losing a branch. The judgement of
Ms. Oviatt Hamm that they are ? ill formed? is just the kind of aesthetic no
one wants. She has decided on limes for that corner . That?s a mistake
because 
1. they won?t be big enough for decades to cover the brick backdrop
2. they drop secretions on the tennis courts

She assured us at the meeting that regular clean ups would be instituted.
Are you confident that this will happen? And why remove healthy trees even
if they?re not a fashionable ? People in the past put them there and thought
they evenutally would look nice. They do. We are being brainwashed into
thinking of them as unwelcome intruders and a ?mistake?? . If they provide a
green screen, provide a function are not interfering with anyone and
flourishing why is no one standing up for them? I think it will be a
wasteful shame to chop them down, and indeed those around the swimming pool
which could be managed much more cheaply ? however strangely money doesn?t
seem to come into this as they have ?50K to ?spend?and no one wanted their
grandiose chop and plant schemes so they?ve left taking it out on the poor
old conifers. I say no.


On 25/9/10 14:35, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:

> Slight correction. Trees at swimming pool are not to be 'chopped".
> Consultation referred to leylandii hedge and proposal is "to plant to
> the front,bulking up the hedge with a native specie
> hedge, followed by a phased removal of the leylandii" (presumably
> after the new one provides cover).  Hope this helps.
> Peter
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Joanna Gordon Clark <skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk>
> Date: 24 September 2010 18:25
> Subject: Re: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree
> planting plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
> To: SOS Cambridge discussion list <discuss at soscambridge.org.uk>
> 
> 
> Adding my name and voice to your list.? Can't believe they are gong to
> chop the swimming pool trees, yes it is absolute madness.? Uniformity
> is not wanted and healthy trees must not be chopped.? The plane trees
> in Alexandra Gardens must not be felled, I think the argumetns against
> prevail entirely.
> 
> Do we know what the cost of the work to the man in Holland St. 's
> house would be?? I mean, I do have?sympathy with anyone whose house
> and?perhaps huge investment is?suffering from soil movement - but we
> don't have to agree to chop trees.? We can: either give the council
> enough arguments to fight off the houseowners' insurers, by makign it
> clear that the trees cannot be blamed for this, sicne they have
> co-existed with the houses for 100years at least,but the clay can be
> and that other factors,- climate,?water mains bursting and brick pit
> behaviour - will very certainly ahve influenced the soil movement.
> That being the case, no tree can be found guilty.
> We need a 'beyond all reasonable doubt' for the trees.
> 
> Could we agree that the Alexandra Gardens trees should simply not be
> felled, and other solutions found, including, as I think, that we find
> sources of funding to pay for the work to the house if the council
> refuses to play ball, and that no trees on Midsummer common or Jesus
> Green be felled for purely aesthetic reasons as present by teh council
> .? I cannot believe that we are being ignored by the council.
> Ok I hardly ever get to email and it is wonderful to find you all out
> there saying and doing things, my phone os 07847922023, and I would
> like to see a petition or a lshort letter sent out to all people in
> Cambridge at least, about the Alexandra Gardens trees, - this because
> of the time factor and they being so precious to so many locally.
> 
> I am horrified to find out about the Jesus Green etc. plans, and
> wonder what we can do to stop them, only I have to focus right now on
> the Gardens. I live on Vicotria Road, 103, in fact, and am so happy to
> hear all you people being tree defenders.
> 
> I suspect that some people may want to sit in trees to rpevent felling
> when push comes to shove as it were, and that we shoudl also have tree
> parties, with local schoolchildren also, to celebrate these trees, all
> of them and to come and sit under them and be motivated to take
> positive action towards saving them. They?can't save themselves....
> eheu
> Joanna
> 
> ????? Joanna
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Ellie Stoneley <elliestoneley at googlemail.com>
> To: SOS Cambridge discussion list <discuss at soscambridge.org.uk>
> Sent: Thu, 23 September, 2010 14:55:26
> Subject: Re: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree
> planting plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
> 
> I would second that ...
> just fyi - I have 'tweeted' about this and the meeting tonight from
> @FofSC the Friends of Stourbridge Common twitter account and also
> featured it on our new website please could you note the new website
> address ... forward me links to your sites as you would like and any
> other local news you would like including
> http://stourbridgecommon.wordpress.com
> good luck tonight - I can't make it due to long standing commitment
> but would add my voice to those already shouting about trees going out
> of fashion and so on ... there are not enough trees in Cambridge as it
> is
> all the best
> Ellie
> 
> On 23 September 2010 13:20, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on felling
>> perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>> 
>> For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ?
>> simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.
>> 
>> With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the
>> tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one
>> was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two
>> types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the
>> conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.
>> 
>> 
>> The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good
>> sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the
>> view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Anne
>>> Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
>>> midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
>>> The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
>>> of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
>>> We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
>>> replacement numbers.
>>> 
>>> So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
>>> Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
>>> prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
>>> Let's be positive.
>>> Yrs
>>> Peter
>>> 
>>> On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
>>>> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a form
>>>> of madness.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>>>>> Area Committee on
>>>>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>>>>> developed by the council.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The meeting details are here:
>>>>> 
>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=50
>>>>> 2>
>>>>> ht
>>>>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>>>>> 
>>>>> John Lawton
>>>>> SOS Chair
>>>>> 
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Save Our green Spaces
>>>>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> discuss mailing list
>>>>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> discuss mailing list
>>>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
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> 
> 
> 
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> +44 (0) 7989 978763
> @e11ie5 on Twitter
> 
> I am fundraising for the Kitchen Table Charities Trust - please do
> consider donating at http://www.justgiving.com/elliestoneley thank you
> - my target is to raise ?5,000
> 
> http://mymadagascarblog.wordpress.com
> The story of my Madagascar adventure - how a trip to the theatre 2
> days after I came out of hospital in January 2010, led to being
> thwarted by a volcano in April and a trip to face giant, huge and
> enormous spiders, a police mutiny, being attacked by a leech, broken
> down trucks and crying with sadness at the plight of so many - and in
> doing so helping people living in extreme poverty in one of the
> poorest countries of the world.
> 
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> named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate,
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From chair at soscambridge.org.uk  Thu Sep  9 07:33:01 2010
From: chair at soscambridge.org.uk (John Lawton)
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 07:33:01 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Urgent  - tree questionnaire
Message-ID: <20100909073248.XWRG22376.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>

Hi,

You may have already heard about the consultation on plans for new 
planting, and some felling of trees on Midsummer Common and Jesus Green.
There is an online questionnaire or a document can be downloaded and completed.

See the council webpage:

http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/ccm/content/planning-and-building-control/historic-environment-and-trees/trees-and-tree-works/tree-planting-proposals-consultation.en

Just to remind you that the deadline to respond is noon this Friday!

The analysis and planting scheme will be presented to West/Central 
Area Committee at a special Environmental Improvement Programme 
meeting held on 23 September 2010 in the committee rooms at the 
Guildhall at 7.30pm.

John Lawton
SOS Chair

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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep  9 11:32:47 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 11:32:47 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Urgent  - tree questionnaire
In-Reply-To: <20100909073248.XWRG22376.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>
Message-ID: <C8AE765F.4105%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Hello there

I think the questionnaire is marginally mad. It says the ?planting? scheme (
which is actually a lot of felling) main aim is to ?restore historic
boundaries.?
Er, what are the historic boundaries for a start, and why frankly do they
need ?restoring?. I don?t get it.

Note that there are alarming options to axe entire avenues of trees. I
discussed this with the Council in their Consultation Tent. They said it was
, and this is absolutely accurate ? like Capability Brown ? or those
Victorians who cut down a lot of trees for their scheme?

Personally I would like them to forget about historic boundaries, stop these
proposals to chop down healthy trees ? axeing the copper beeches would this
woman on JG Council tent told me ? create a uniform green coherent  line?.
It is such rubbish.  They?re very keen on uniformity, smaller and different
trees have to do and as for Leylandi, even the ones that afford real
protection for the Pool are to be axed altogether.

I dislike their use of language. I have never heard trees described as
?coherent? before and the word ?rationalise? spelled in that American way,
has me baffled. 

Can they not return to their role as park keepers forget all about
Capability Brown and just plant new trees when the old ones die.

They?ve had ?500 for three years from the Electricity Board to replace a
Plane Tree but strangely haven?t got around to doing that.


On 9/9/10 07:33, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> You may have already heard about the consultation on plans for new
> planting, and some felling of trees on Midsummer Common and Jesus Green.
> There is an online questionnaire or a document can be downloaded and
> completed.
> 
> See the council webpage:
> 
> http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/ccm/content/planning-and-building-control/historic
> -environment-and-trees/trees-and-tree-works/tree-planting-proposals-consultati
> on.en
> 
> Just to remind you that the deadline to respond is noon this Friday!
> 
> The analysis and planting scheme will be presented to West/Central
> Area Committee at a special Environmental Improvement Programme
> meeting held on 23 September 2010 in the committee rooms at the
> Guildhall at 7.30pm.
> 
> John Lawton
> SOS Chair
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Save Our green Spaces
> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
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> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From chair at soscambridge.org.uk  Sun Sep 19 18:34:04 2010
From: chair at soscambridge.org.uk (John Lawton)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:34:04 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Urgent! - Trees in Alexandra Gardens in danger of felling
 by council
Message-ID: <20100919183301.SYUC22376.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>

Hello,

I though that you should know about the threat to fell a number of 
mature plane trees in this lovely green space off Chesterton 
Road.  There is nothing wrong with the trees, but they are blamed for 
causing structural damage to a nearby property.

See the SOS Cambridge website for more details: 
<http://soscambridge.org.uk/>http://soscambridge.org.uk/

If you find the idea of felling these lovely trees abhorrent, please 
write in protest at the proposed actions.  It is possible to send in 
submissions up to the 21st (Tuesday) and the planning meeting will be 
held on the 22nd September at the Guildhall to recommend the fate of the trees.

Details of all the email contacts are also on the website above.

Regards,

John Lawton
SOS Chair

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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Mon Sep 20 10:42:01 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:42:01 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Urgent! - Trees in Alexandra Gardens in danger of
 felling by council
In-Reply-To: <20100919183301.SYUC22376.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>
Message-ID: <C8BCEAF9.420C%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Thanks John, have written in.

Also asking an FOI question about the cost of the ridiculous 'survey'
they've just concluded using a Yorkshire based PR company


Yours A.


On 19/9/10 18:34, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I though that you should know about the threat to fell a number of
> mature plane trees in this lovely green space off Chesterton
> Road.  There is nothing wrong with the trees, but they are blamed for
> causing structural damage to a nearby property.
> 
> See the SOS Cambridge website for more details:
> <http://soscambridge.org.uk/>http://soscambridge.org.uk/
> 
> If you find the idea of felling these lovely trees abhorrent, please
> write in protest at the proposed actions.  It is possible to send in
> submissions up to the 21st (Tuesday) and the planning meeting will be
> held on the 22nd September at the Guildhall to recommend the fate of the
> trees.
> 
> Details of all the email contacts are also on the website above.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John Lawton
> SOS Chair
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Save Our green Spaces
> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
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> 
> 
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From S.Norton at dpmms.cam.ac.uk  Mon Sep 20 18:18:20 2010
From: S.Norton at dpmms.cam.ac.uk (Simon Norton)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:18:20 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens
Message-ID: <E1Oxk0S-0001LU-Qu@gallinule.dpmms.cam.ac.uk>

According to the SOS website the tree felling will not be discussed at
tomorrow's committee meeting. This presumably means that we have more time to
prepare our objections -- can someone confirm ?

I may need this extra time as it isn't clear from anything I've seen so far what
we should be proposing as an alternative to felling the trees. Can someone
elucidate ?

Incidentally I live near enough to have had an official notice about the
felling of the trees. But I don't feel I understand the issues well enough to be
able to prepare an objection without guidance.

 Simon Norton, 6 Hertford St




From rcantrill at millingtonadvisory.com  Mon Sep 20 18:46:47 2010
From: rcantrill at millingtonadvisory.com (Rod Cantrill)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:46:47 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens
In-Reply-To: <E1Oxk0S-0001LU-Qu@gallinule.dpmms.cam.ac.uk>
References: <E1Oxk0S-0001LU-Qu@gallinule.dpmms.cam.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <32B9C27B1C38EF4690DCFAF696669B1B1536D9@mil-sbs.millington.local>

I can confirm that I have asked officers top defer the item until the
October Planning meeting so that residents are able to consider and
comment on the proposals properly and to enable ward councillors and
myself to discuss with residents their concerns

Regards 

Rod Cantrill

Cllr Rod Cantrill
Ward Councillor Newnham 
Executive Councillor
Arts & Recreation
Cambridge City Council 
Tel: +44 7919103865
E-mail: rcantrill at millingtonadvisory.com



 

-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces at soscambridge.org.uk
[mailto:discuss-bounces at soscambridge.org.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Norton
Sent: 20 September 2010 18:18
To: discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens

According to the SOS website the tree felling will not be discussed at
tomorrow's committee meeting. This presumably means that we have more
time to
prepare our objections -- can someone confirm ?

I may need this extra time as it isn't clear from anything I've seen so
far what
we should be proposing as an alternative to felling the trees. Can
someone
elucidate ?

Incidentally I live near enough to have had an official notice about the
felling of the trees. But I don't feel I understand the issues well
enough to be
able to prepare an objection without guidance.

 Simon Norton, 6 Hertford St


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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Tue Sep 21 10:40:31 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:40:31 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens
In-Reply-To: <32B9C27B1C38EF4690DCFAF696669B1B1536D9@mil-sbs.millington.local>
Message-ID: <C8BE3C1F.423F%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Excellent.There are some huge questions here affecting the future of all
trees, claims for subsidence and other tremendously important factors.


On 20/9/10 18:46, "Rod Cantrill" <rcantrill at millingtonadvisory.com> wrote:

> I can confirm that I have asked officers top defer the item until the
> October Planning meeting so that residents are able to consider and
> comment on the proposals properly and to enable ward councillors and
> myself to discuss with residents their concerns
> 
> Regards 
> 
> Rod Cantrill
> 
> Cllr Rod Cantrill
> Ward Councillor Newnham
> Executive Councillor
> Arts & Recreation
> Cambridge City Council
> Tel: +44 7919103865
> E-mail: rcantrill at millingtonadvisory.com
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces at soscambridge.org.uk
> [mailto:discuss-bounces at soscambridge.org.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Norton
> Sent: 20 September 2010 18:18
> To: discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens
> 
> According to the SOS website the tree felling will not be discussed at
> tomorrow's committee meeting. This presumably means that we have more
> time to
> prepare our objections -- can someone confirm ?
> 
> I may need this extra time as it isn't clear from anything I've seen so
> far what
> we should be proposing as an alternative to felling the trees. Can
> someone
> elucidate ?
> 
> Incidentally I live near enough to have had an official notice about the
> felling of the trees. But I don't feel I understand the issues well
> enough to be
> able to prepare an objection without guidance.
> 
>  Simon Norton, 6 Hertford St
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> 
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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Tue Sep 21 10:45:43 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:45:43 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens
In-Reply-To: <E1Oxk0S-0001LU-Qu@gallinule.dpmms.cam.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <C8BE3D57.4243%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Yes I agree, we must marshall the doubtless interesting arguments, ours
cannot be the single instance of this happening but it is frankly absolutely
typical of this administration to rush to the felling option first, headed
by Mrs. Oviat Hamm.


On 20/9/10 18:18, "Simon Norton" <S.Norton at dpmms.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> According to the SOS website the tree felling will not be discussed at
> tomorrow's committee meeting. This presumably means that we have more time to
> prepare our objections -- can someone confirm ?
> 
> I may need this extra time as it isn't clear from anything I've seen so far
> what
> we should be proposing as an alternative to felling the trees. Can someone
> elucidate ?
> 
> Incidentally I live near enough to have had an official notice about the
> felling of the trees. But I don't feel I understand the issues well enough to
> be
> able to prepare an objection without guidance.
> 
>  Simon Norton, 6 Hertford St
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
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From aeh1 at hermes.cam.ac.uk  Tue Sep 21 18:11:04 2010
From: aeh1 at hermes.cam.ac.uk (AE Hill)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:11:04 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens Tree Felling Proposals
Message-ID: <E1Oy6Mw-0005dZ-i5@ppsw-33.csi.cam.ac.uk>


Hello :

I have put together as an attachment a short relatively non-technical 
document about the scientific and logical issues behind the proposed 
tree felling in Alexandra Gardens for anyone who might wish to read 
it. The aim is to make people think about the often re-iterated 
statement by the Chief Arboricultural Officer (the form varies) to 
the effect that the trees have been shown to be the agent creating 
the subsidence upon which the felling proposal rests.

Until we see the independent surveyors report, which the Council 
officers have not yet released, it is impossible to judge the 'data' 
on which this conclusion is based. However, I have tried to show that 
it is not at all simple and that we should rid ourselves of the 
simple equation of (tree roots)=(serious water 
extraction)=(drying/subsidence)=(required felling) which seems to be 
axiomatic in the minds of many people.

Anyone really interested (and with a bit of time !) should read - or 
pick the relevant plums out of - the London Tree Officers Association 
report of 2008, which makes the case against blaming trees for too 
much of the subsidence in London and the role of the insurance 
companies (see relevant bits above, also).

Adrian Hill
29 Alpha Road
Cambridge CB4 3DQ 
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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Tue Sep 21 18:49:15 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:49:15 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens Tree Felling Proposals
In-Reply-To: <E1Oy6Mw-0005dZ-i5@ppsw-33.csi.cam.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <C8BEAEAB.4273%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Wow. This is such brilliantly written hot stuff, it absolutely challenges
the entire basis of their claim.

I have worried about Mrs.Oviatt Hamm for some time. Her plan to ?restore the
historic boundaries of Jesus Green? involves cutting down a lot of trees,
this is simply another example of someone who is not remotely on top of
their job.

Has anyone approached Dr.Oliver Rackham ( not that this scholarly and
convincing piece of analysis needs any back up ) but he is readily available
at Corpus and helped me with thoughts on London planes when I was
campaigning against the wholescale ?re-modelling? of Jesus Green last year.
Now dropped.

AG


On 21/9/10 18:11, "AE Hill" <aeh1 at hermes.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> 
> Hello :
> 
> I have put together as an attachment a short relatively non-technical document
> about the scientific and logical issues behind the proposed tree felling in
> Alexandra Gardens for anyone who might wish to read it. The aim is to make
> people think about the often re-iterated statement by the Chief Arboricultural
> Officer (the form varies) to the effect that the trees have been shown to be
> the agent creating the subsidence upon which the felling proposal rests.
> 
> Until we see the independent surveyors report, which the Council officers have
> not yet released, it is impossible to judge the 'data' on which this
> conclusion is based. However, I have tried to show that it is not at all
> simple and that we should rid ourselves of the simple equation of (tree
> roots)=(serious water extraction)=(drying/subsidence)=(required felling) which
> seems to be axiomatic in the minds of many people.
> 
> Anyone really interested (and with a bit of time !) should read - or pick the
> relevant plums out of - the London Tree Officers Association report of 2008,
> which makes the case against blaming trees for too much of the subsidence in
> London and the role of the insurance companies (see relevant bits above,
> also).
> 
> Adrian Hill
> 29 Alpha Road
> Cambridge CB4 3DQ
> 
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk


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From aeh1 at hermes.cam.ac.uk  Wed Sep 22 12:28:38 2010
From: aeh1 at hermes.cam.ac.uk (AE Hill)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:28:38 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens Tree Felling Proposals
In-Reply-To: <C8BEAEAB.4273%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
References: <E1Oy6Mw-0005dZ-i5@ppsw-33.csi.cam.ac.uk>
	<C8BEAEAB.4273%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <E1OyNV5-00056H-0C@ppsw-32.csi.cam.ac.uk>


Dear Anne,

I saw your letter about my screed - thank you for your kind comments. 
The aim was merely to get people to take a sceptical view of what the 
Council Officers say ! A bigger document is being prepared as a 
counterweight to Oviatt-Ham but this will take some time.

I do know Oliver as we both shared a room for many years in the 
Botany School (now Plant Sciences) but haven't spoken to him for 10 
years. Your contacting him about planes has spurred me to ask him 
about the proposals too - for that, thanks.

With kind regards,
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From margaret at corona4.fsnet.co.uk  Wed Sep 22 16:50:54 2010
From: margaret at corona4.fsnet.co.uk (Margaret Wright)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:50:54 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens Tree Felling Proposals
In-Reply-To: <E1OyNV5-00056H-0C@ppsw-32.csi.cam.ac.uk>
References: <E1Oy6Mw-0005dZ-i5@ppsw-33.csi.cam.ac.uk>
	<C8BEAEAB.4273%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
	<E1OyNV5-00056H-0C@ppsw-32.csi.cam.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <1819ED04D3A04AF7AE7D7FDD1D7B4ADA@margaretPC>

Just a note to say I was relieved that the application has been delayed and that more evidence will now be put before the committee,

Best wishes,

Margaret Wright
Member Planning Committee.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: AE Hill 
  To: margaret at corona4.fsnet.co.uk ; SOS Cambridge discussion list 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 12:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens Tree Felling Proposals



  Dear Anne,

  I saw your letter about my screed - thank you for your kind comments. The aim was merely to get people to take a sceptical view of what the Council Officers say ! A bigger document is being prepared as a counterweight to Oviatt-Ham but this will take some time.

  I do know Oliver as we both shared a room for many years in the Botany School (now Plant Sciences) but haven't spoken to him for 10 years. Your contacting him about planes has spurred me to ask him about the proposals too - for that, thanks.

  With kind regards,
  Adrian Hill. 


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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Wed Sep 22 17:59:03 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:59:03 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens Tree Felling Proposals
In-Reply-To: <E1OyNV5-00056H-0C@ppsw-32.csi.cam.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <C8BFF467.42B4%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Dear Dr.Hill,


I did really think your presentation was refreshingly direct and readable .
As a journalist, one sometimes despairs of material prepared for the public
and this was exceptionally lucid for us lay dullards. I am now completely
confident that sense will eventually prevail.

I am delighted that Oliver?s help with the last protest has somehow linked
you both again, united we stand.


Best wishes


Anne Garvey 18 Hertford Street


On 22/9/10 12:28, "AE Hill" <aeh1 at hermes.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> 
> Dear Anne,
> 
> I saw your letter about my screed - thank you for your kind comments. The aim
> was merely to get people to take a sceptical view of what the Council Officers
> say ! A bigger document is being prepared as a counterweight to Oviatt-Ham but
> this will take some time.
> 
> I do know Oliver as we both shared a room for many years in the Botany School
> (now Plant Sciences) but haven't spoken to him for 10 years. Your contacting
> him about planes has spurred me to ask him about the proposals too - for that,
> thanks.
> 
> With kind regards,
> Adrian Hill.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk


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From chair at soscambridge.org.uk  Wed Sep 22 21:35:03 2010
From: chair at soscambridge.org.uk (John Lawton)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:35:03 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
Message-ID: <20100922213503.XAHC1807.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>

Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central 
Area Committee on
Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans 
developed by the council.

The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.

The meeting details are here: 
<http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502 


Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!

John Lawton
SOS Chair

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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep 23 10:22:09 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:22:09 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <20100922213503.XAHC1807.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>
Message-ID: <C8C0DAD1.42C0%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a form
of madness.


On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:

> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
> Area Committee on
> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
> developed by the council.
> 
> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.
> 
> The meeting details are here:
> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>ht
> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
> 
> 
> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
> 
> John Lawton
> SOS Chair
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Save Our green Spaces
> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk

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From p.constable at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep 23 11:45:47 2010
From: p.constable at ntlworld.com (CONSTABLE PETER)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:45:47 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <C8C0DAD1.42C0%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
References: <20100922213503.XAHC1807.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>
	<C8C0DAD1.42C0%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
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Anne
Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
replacement numbers.

So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
Let's be positive.
Yrs
Peter

On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a form
> of madness.
>
>
> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>> Area Committee on
>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>> developed by the council.
>>
>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.
>>
>> The meeting details are here:
>>
>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>ht
>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>>
>>
>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>>
>> John Lawton
>> SOS Chair
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> Save Our green Spaces
>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> discuss mailing list
>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>
>



From cartoons at andydavey.com  Thu Sep 23 11:58:02 2010
From: cartoons at andydavey.com (Andy Davey)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:58:02 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
	plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <20100922213503.XAHC1807.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>
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Message-ID: <006a01cb5b0e$32cbd500$98637f00$@com>

Will try to be there
Andy
e: mailto:cartoons at andydavey.com


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Sent: 22 September 2010 21:35
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Cc: discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting plans on Jesus Green and
Midsummer Common

Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central 
Area Committee on
Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans 
developed by the council.

The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.

The meeting details are here: 
<http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>http://www.cambridge.gov
.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502 


Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!

John Lawton
SOS Chair

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http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep 23 13:20:52 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:20:52 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimbqJLcJEGVNfhZ0=S+UuRCHwSdYBifvHYpswr9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C8C104B4.42D7%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on
felling perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.

For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ?
simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.

With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the
tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one
was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two
types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the
conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.


The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good
sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the
view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.



Best wishes


Anne


On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:

> Anne
> Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
> midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
> The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
> of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
> We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
> replacement numbers.
> 
> So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
> Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
> prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
> Let's be positive.
> Yrs
> Peter
> 
> On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
>> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a form
>> of madness.
>> 
>> 
>> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>> 
>>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>>> Area Committee on
>>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>>> developed by the council.
>>> 
>>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.
>>> 
>>> The meeting details are here:
>>> 
>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>
>>> ht
>>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>>> 
>>> John Lawton
>>> SOS Chair
>>> 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>> Save Our green Spaces
>>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> discuss mailing list
>>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> discuss mailing list
>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>> 
>> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
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From p.constable at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep 23 13:41:27 2010
From: p.constable at ntlworld.com (peter constable)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:41:27 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
	plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <C8C104B4.42D7%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
References: <C8C104B4.42D7%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <6860BE9C-A921-4BBD-BB77-1E94613805B7@ntlworld.com>

Anne
The copper beech close to my house and the one at the corner of Park  
Parade and lower park Street are not now on the "felling" list.
Of the 5 on the list three are the leylandii by La Mimosa and two are  
small beeches by Jesus Brook. I have proposals for both of these.
More tonight....
Peter
On 23 Sep 2010, at 13:20, Anne Garvey wrote:

> Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance  
> on felling perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer  
> fashionable.
>
> For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for  
> the axe ? simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a  
> green line of trees.
>
> With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside  
> the tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good  
> reason, and no one was given any option on that ? choice on that  
> questionnaire was between two types of replacement hedge. Like the  
> majority of swimmers, I feel the conifers by the pool are a useful  
> screen for privacy and for wind.
>
>
> The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for  
> good sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and  
> certainly the view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy  
> adopted.
>
>
>
> Best wishes
>
>
> Anne
>
>
> On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> > Anne
> > Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
> > midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus  
> Green.
> > The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large  
> percentage
> > of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
> > We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
> > replacement numbers.
> >
> > So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
> > Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
> > prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
> > Let's be positive.
> > Yrs
> > Peter
> >
> > On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com>  
> wrote:
> >> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to  
> provide
> >> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which  
> is a form
> >> of madness.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
> >>> Area Committee on
> >>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting  
> plans
> >>> developed by the council.
> >>>
> >>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in  
> Cambridge.
> >>>
> >>> The meeting details are here:
> >>>
> >>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502 
> >
> >>> ht
> >>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
> >>>
> >>> John Lawton
> >>> SOS Chair
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>> Save Our green Spaces
> >>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> discuss mailing list
> >>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> >>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> discuss mailing list
> >> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> >> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> >>
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > discuss mailing list
> > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/ 
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From elliestoneley at googlemail.com  Thu Sep 23 14:55:26 2010
From: elliestoneley at googlemail.com (Ellie Stoneley)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:55:26 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <C8C104B4.42D7%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
References: <AANLkTimbqJLcJEGVNfhZ0=S+UuRCHwSdYBifvHYpswr9@mail.gmail.com>
	<C8C104B4.42D7%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
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I would second that ...

just fyi - I have 'tweeted' about this and the meeting tonight from @FofSC
the Friends of Stourbridge Common twitter account and also featured it on
our new website please could you note the new website address ... forward me
links to your sites as you would like and any other local news you would
like including
http://stourbridgecommon.wordpress.com

good luck tonight - I can't make it due to long standing commitment but
would add my voice to those already shouting about trees going out of
fashion and so on ... there are not enough trees in Cambridge as it is

all the best
Ellie

On 23 September 2010 13:20, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:

>  Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on
> felling perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>
> For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ?
> simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.
>
> With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the
> tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one
> was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two
> types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the
> conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.
>
>
> The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good
> sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the
> view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>
>
>
> Best wishes
>
>
> Anne
>
>
>
> On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> > Anne
> > Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
> > midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
> > The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
> > of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
> > We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
> > replacement numbers.
> >
> > So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
> > Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
> > prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
> > Let's be positive.
> > Yrs
> > Peter
> >
> > On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com>
> wrote:
> >> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
> >> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a
> form
> >> of madness.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
> >>> Area Committee on
> >>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
> >>> developed by the council.
> >>>
> >>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in
> Cambridge.
> >>>
> >>> The meeting details are here:
> >>>
> >>>
> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502><http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>
> >>> ht
> >>> tp://
> www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
> >>>
> >>> John Lawton
> >>> SOS Chair
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>> Save Our green Spaces
> >>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> discuss mailing list
> >>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> >>>
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> discuss mailing list
> >> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> >> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> >>
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > discuss mailing list
> > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>
>


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From pale.aquamarine at googlemail.com  Thu Sep 23 15:16:51 2010
From: pale.aquamarine at googlemail.com (Lisa Buchholz)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:16:51 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikxcb=XjHUoAkD-AyUmmpWBNnWTW=x+NfSHtVvq@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimbqJLcJEGVNfhZ0=S+UuRCHwSdYBifvHYpswr9@mail.gmail.com>
	<C8C104B4.42D7%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
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Ellie - thanks so much - I saw that that you had sent that out.  I'm
planning to go - people are hysterical about the tree 'cull' going on!  I am
so with you on lack of trees (in UK in general I think!).  I always think
how much nicer my street would look if had about 10 big trees on it!

BTW - this is the thing I was thinking of going to at the ADC - what do you
think?  too weird?  There are some other things on but hard to get a grip on
from website; brochure is better.....

The Fire Within
by Patrick Garety
*Tuesday 19th October - Saturday 23rd October*
?10-?6

 The fires will be burning in the streets of Udaipur tonight.The British Raj
in India is coming to an end.In the twilight of history, an entrenched
colonial family prepares its last supper.

Eve has been missing all day. On the eve of James? departure for England,
the family gathers for a final farewell. Tempers fray as the oppressive heat
of day climaxes in the stifling darkness of the Indian night. Someone is
harbouring a dark secret. Outside, a storm is brewing. This poignant
snapshot of a decaying empire is a pertinent reminder of the bonds of
family, the power of love, and the struggle for identity that burns
within. Nothing
is ever really yours here. No matter how many times we stamp things, nothing
is really British. Patrick Garety?s lyrical new play comes to the ADC in a
haunting and evocative production which celebrates the fervour of youth, and
how the choices of a moment can shape our lives.

Have a look and see if other things interest?  I decided there was nothing
really at the Arts that got me going.


Lisa


On 23 September 2010 14:55, Ellie Stoneley <elliestoneley at googlemail.com>wrote:

> I would second that ...
>
> just fyi - I have 'tweeted' about this and the meeting tonight from @FofSC
> the Friends of Stourbridge Common twitter account and also featured it on
> our new website please could you note the new website address ... forward me
> links to your sites as you would like and any other local news you would
> like including
> http://stourbridgecommon.wordpress.com
>
> good luck tonight - I can't make it due to long standing commitment but
> would add my voice to those already shouting about trees going out of
> fashion and so on ... there are not enough trees in Cambridge as it is
>
> all the best
> Ellie
>
>
> On 23 September 2010 13:20, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>  Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on
>> felling perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>>
>> For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe
>> ? simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of
>> trees.
>>
>> With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the
>> tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one
>> was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two
>> types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the
>> conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.
>>
>>
>> The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good
>> sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the
>> view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>>
>> Anne
>>
>>
>>
>> On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Anne
>> > Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
>> > midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
>> > The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
>> > of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
>> > We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
>> > replacement numbers.
>> >
>> > So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
>> > Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
>> > prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
>> > Let's be positive.
>> > Yrs
>> > Peter
>> >
>> > On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to
>> provide
>> >> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a
>> form
>> >> of madness.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>> >>> Area Committee on
>> >>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>> >>> developed by the council.
>> >>>
>> >>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in
>> Cambridge.
>> >>>
>> >>> The meeting details are here:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502><http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>
>> >>> ht
>> >>> tp://
>> www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>> >>>
>> >>> John Lawton
>> >>> SOS Chair
>> >>>
>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> >>> Save Our green Spaces
>> >>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep 23 15:36:20 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:36:20 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <6860BE9C-A921-4BBD-BB77-1E94613805B7@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <C8C12474.42E9%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Well that is a relief ? but imagine the mentality of even proposing to cut
them down, that?s what we?re dealing with.

As for the Leylandii, they are clearly a nuisance in gardens  but have their
uses when it comes to open spaces. I like them and so did the people who
planted them, they smell nice and will look very bare if they?re gone.
Idiiotically they?re planning to replace them with limes which are famous
for dropping sticky substances all over the place, las thing you need on a
tennis court, the new ones will be plagued by the secretions, ridiculous
costly and pointless idea.

See you this evening

A.


On 23/9/10 13:41, "peter constable" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:

> Anne
> The copper beech close to my house and the one at the corner of Park Parade
> and lower park Street are not now on the "felling" list.
> Of the 5 on the list three are the leylandii by La Mimosa and two are small
> beeches by Jesus Brook. I have proposals for both of these.
> More tonight.... 
> Peter
> On 23 Sep 2010, at 13:20, Anne Garvey wrote:
> 
>>  Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on
>> felling perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>>  
>>  For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ?
>> simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.
>>  
>>  With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the
>> tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one
>> was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two
>> types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the
>> conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.
>>  
>>  
>>  The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good
>> sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the
>> view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  Best wishes
>>  
>>  
>>  Anne
>>  
>>  
>>  On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>  
>>>  > Anne
>>>  > Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
>>>  > midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
>>>  > The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
>>>  > of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
>>>  > We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
>>>  > replacement numbers.
>>>  > 
>>>  > So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
>>>  > Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
>>>  > prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
>>>  > Let's be positive.
>>>  > Yrs
>>>  > Peter
>>>  > 
>>>  > On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>  >> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to
>>>> provide
>>>>  >> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a
>>>> form
>>>>  >> of madness.
>>>>  >> 
>>>>  >> 
>>>>  >> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>  >> 
>>>>>  >>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>>>>>  >>> Area Committee on
>>>>>  >>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>>>>>  >>> developed by the council.
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in
>>>>> Cambridge.
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> The meeting details are here:
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=50
>>>>> 2> 
>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&amp;MI
>>>>> d=502> 
>>>>>  >>> ht
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&amp;MI
>>>>> d=502> 
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> John Lawton
>>>>>  >>> SOS Chair
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>  >>> Save Our green Spaces
>>>>>  >>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>>  >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>  >>> discuss mailing list
>>>>>  >>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>  >> 
>>>>  >> _______________________________________________
>>>>  >> discuss mailing list
>>>>  >> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>  >> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>  >> 
>>>>  >> 
>>>  > 
>>>  > _______________________________________________
>>>  > discuss mailing list
>>>  > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>  > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>   
>>   _______________________________________________
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>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> 
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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep 23 15:39:24 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:39:24 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikxcb=XjHUoAkD-AyUmmpWBNnWTW=x+NfSHtVvq@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C8C1252C.42EB%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Great, the zero tolerance is the only option in the face of this kind of
thinking.


On 23/9/10 14:55, "Ellie Stoneley" <elliestoneley at googlemail.com> wrote:

> I would second that ...?
> 
> just fyi - I have 'tweeted' about this and the meeting tonight from @FofSC the
> Friends of Stourbridge Common twitter account and also featured it on our new
> website please could you note the new website address ... forward me links to
> your sites as you would like and any other local news you would like including
> http://stourbridgecommon.wordpress.com
> 
> good luck tonight - I can't make it due to long standing commitment but would
> add my voice to those already shouting about trees going out of fashion and so
> on ... there are not enough trees in Cambridge as it is
> 
> all the best
> Ellie
> 
> On 23 September 2010 13:20, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on felling
>> perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>> 
>> For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ?
>> simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.
>> 
>> With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the
>> tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one
>> was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two
>> types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the
>> conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.
>> 
>> 
>> The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good
>> sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the
>> view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> > Anne
>>> > Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
>>> > midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
>>> > The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
>>> > of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
>>> > We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
>>> > replacement numbers.
>>> > 
>>> > So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
>>> > Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
>>> > prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
>>> > Let's be positive.
>>> > Yrs
>>> > Peter
>>> > 
>>> > On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>> >> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
>>>> >> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a
>>>> form
>>>> >> of madness.
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> >> 
>>>>> >>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>>>>> >>> Area Committee on
>>>>> >>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>>>>> >>> developed by the council.
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in
>>>>> Cambridge.
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> The meeting details are here:
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=50
>>>>> 2> 
>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&amp;MI
>>>>> d=502> 
>>>>> >>> ht
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&amp;MI
>>>>> d=502> 
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> John Lawton
>>>>> >>> SOS Chair
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> >>> Save Our green Spaces
>>>>> >>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >>> discuss mailing list
>>>>> >>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>> >> discuss mailing list
>>>> >> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> >> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> 
>>> > 
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > discuss mailing list
>>> > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>> > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> discuss mailing list
>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>> 
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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep 23 15:41:03 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:41:03 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=BTSU+39QWt-vq_Sc55Paa9P4X19AG-mQx6UkQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C8C1258F.42EC%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Well we would love ten trees on Hertford Street, it?s so bleak in winter,
just re-locate them here. Or perhaps we could five each.

I think the reaction is so well founded. How about a vote of No Confidence
in the Tree Officer?


On 23/9/10 15:16, "Lisa Buchholz" <pale.aquamarine at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Ellie - thanks so much - I saw that that you had sent that out.? I'm planning
> to go - people are hysterical about the tree 'cull' going on!? I am so with
> you on lack of trees (in UK in general I think!).? I always think how much
> nicer my street would look if had about 10 big trees on it!
> 
> BTW - this is the thing I was thinking of going to at the ADC - what do you
> think?? too weird?? There are some other things on but hard to get a grip on
> from website; brochure is better.....
> 
> The Fire Within
> by Patrick Garety
> Tuesday 19th October - Saturday 23rd October
> ?10-?6 
> 
> The fires will be burning in the streets of Udaipur tonight.The British Raj in
> India is coming to an end.In the twilight of history, an entrenched colonial
> family prepares its last supper.
> 
> Eve has been missing all day. On the eve of James? departure for England, the
> family gathers for a final farewell. Tempers fray as the oppressive heat of
> day climaxes in the stifling darkness of the Indian night. Someone is
> harbouring a dark secret. Outside, a storm is brewing. This poignant snapshot
> of a decaying empire is a pertinent reminder of the bonds of family, the power
> of love, and the struggle for identity that burns within. Nothing is ever
> really yours here. No matter how many times we stamp things, nothing is really
> British. Patrick Garety?s lyrical new play comes to the ADC in a haunting and
> evocative production which celebrates the fervour of youth, and how the
> choices of a moment can shape our lives.
> 
> Have a look and see if other things interest?? I decided there was nothing
> really at the Arts that got me going.
> 
> 
> Lisa
> 
> 
> On 23 September 2010 14:55, Ellie Stoneley <elliestoneley at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>> I would second that ...?
>> 
>> just fyi - I have 'tweeted' about this and the meeting tonight from @FofSC
>> the Friends of Stourbridge Common twitter account and also featured it on our
>> new website please could you note the new website address ... forward me
>> links to your sites as you would like and any other local news you would like
>> including
>> http://stourbridgecommon.wordpress.com
>> 
>> good luck tonight - I can't make it due to long standing commitment but would
>> add my voice to those already shouting about trees going out of fashion and
>> so on ... there are not enough trees in Cambridge as it is
>> 
>> all the best
>> Ellie
>> 
>> 
>> On 23 September 2010 13:20, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on
>>> felling perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>>> 
>>> For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ?
>>> simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.
>>> 
>>> With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the
>>> tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one
>>> was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two
>>> types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the
>>> conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good
>>> sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the
>>> view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best wishes
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> > Anne
>>>> > Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
>>>> > midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
>>>> > The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
>>>> > of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
>>>> > We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
>>>> > replacement numbers.
>>>> > 
>>>> > So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
>>>> > Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
>>>> > prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
>>>> > Let's be positive.
>>>> > Yrs
>>>> > Peter
>>>> > 
>>>> > On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to
>>>>> provide
>>>>> >> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a
>>>>> form
>>>>> >> of madness.
>>>>> >> 
>>>>> >> 
>>>>> >> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>> >> 
>>>>>> >>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>>>>>> >>> Area Committee on
>>>>>> >>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>>>>>> >>> developed by the council.
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in
>>>>>> Cambridge.
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> The meeting details are here:
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=5
>>>>>> 02> 
>>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&amp;M
>>>>>> Id=502> 
>>>>>> >>> ht
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&amp;M
>>>>>> Id=502> 
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> John Lawton
>>>>>> >>> SOS Chair
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> >>> Save Our green Spaces
>>>>>> >>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> >>> discuss mailing list
>>>>>> >>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>> >> 
>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >> discuss mailing list
>>>>> >> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>> >> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>> >> 
>>>>> >> 
>>>> > 
>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>> > discuss mailing list
>>>> > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> discuss mailing list
>>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>> 
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From chair at soscambridge.org.uk  Fri Sep 24 12:38:20 2010
From: chair at soscambridge.org.uk (John Lawton)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:38:20 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Consultation on city allotments - ends today
Message-ID: <20100924123752.JUPJ12520.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>

Sorry about the very short notice, but this online consultation on 
city allotments ends today:

<http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/ccm/content/leisure-and-entertainment/allotments/allotment-management-policy-consultation.en>http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/ccm/content/leisure-and-entertainment/allotments/allotment-management-policy-consultation.en 


John Lawton
SOS Chair

---------------------------------------------------------
Save Our green Spaces
http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
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From skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Sep 24 18:25:07 2010
From: skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk (Joanna Gordon Clark)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 17:25:07 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
	plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikxcb=XjHUoAkD-AyUmmpWBNnWTW=x+NfSHtVvq@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimbqJLcJEGVNfhZ0=S+UuRCHwSdYBifvHYpswr9@mail.gmail.com>
	<C8C104B4.42D7%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
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Message-ID: <267517.39493.qm@web29718.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Adding my name and voice to your list.? Can't believe they are gong to chop the 
swimming pool trees, yes it is absolute madness.? Uniformity is not wanted and 
healthy trees must not be chopped.? The plane trees in Alexandra Gardens must 
not be felled, I think the argumetns against prevail entirely.

Do we know what the cost of the work to the man in Holland St. 's house would 
be?? I mean, I do have?sympathy with anyone whose house and?perhaps huge 
investment is?suffering from soil movement - but we don't have to agree to chop 
trees.? We can: either give the council enough arguments to fight off the 
houseowners' insurers, by makign it clear that the trees cannot be blamed for 
this, sicne they have co-existed with the houses for 100years at least,but the 
clay can be and that other factors,- climate,?water mains bursting and brick pit 
behaviour - will very certainly ahve influenced the soil movement.? That being 
the case, no tree can be found guilty.
We need a 'beyond all reasonable doubt' for the trees.

Could we agree that the Alexandra Gardens trees should simply not be felled, and 
other solutions found, including, as I think, that we find sources of funding to 
pay for the work to the house if the council refuses to play ball, and that no 
trees on Midsummer common or Jesus Green be felled for purely aesthetic reasons 
as present by teh council .? I cannot believe that we are being ignored by the 
council. 

Ok I hardly ever get to email and it is wonderful to find you all out there 
saying and doing things, my phone os 07847922023, and I would like to see a 
petition or a lshort letter sent out to all people in Cambridge at least, about 
the Alexandra Gardens trees, - this because of the time factor and they being so 
precious to so many locally.

I am horrified to find out about the Jesus Green etc. plans, and wonder what we 
can do to stop them, only I have to focus right now on the Gardens. I live on 
Vicotria Road, 103, in fact, and am so happy to hear all you people being tree 
defenders.

I suspect that some people may want to sit in trees to rpevent felling when push 
comes to shove as it were, and that we shoudl also have tree parties, with local 
schoolchildren also, to celebrate these trees, all of them and to come and sit 
under them and be motivated to take positive action towards saving them. 
They?can't save themselves.... eheu
Joanna?
?????? Joanna 




________________________________
From: Ellie Stoneley <elliestoneley at googlemail.com>
To: SOS Cambridge discussion list <discuss at soscambridge.org.uk>
Sent: Thu, 23 September, 2010 14:55:26
Subject: Re: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting 
plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common

I would second that ...? 

just fyi - I have 'tweeted' about this and the meeting tonight from @FofSC the 
Friends of Stourbridge Common twitter account and also featured it on our new 
website please could you note the new website address ... forward me links to 
your sites as you would like and any other local news you would like including
http://stourbridgecommon.wordpress.com

good luck tonight - I can't make it due to long standing commitment but would 
add my voice to those already shouting about trees going out of fashion and so 
on ... there are not enough trees in Cambridge as it is

all the best
Ellie


On 23 September 2010 13:20, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:

Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on felling 
perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>
>For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ? 
>simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.
>
>With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the tennis 
>court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one was given 
>any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two types of 
>replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the conifers by the 
>pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind. 
>
>
>
>The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good sound 
>reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the view of 
>everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>
>
>
>Best wishes
>
>
>Anne 
>
>
>
>On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> Anne
>> Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
>> midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
>> The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
>> of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
>> We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
>> replacement numbers.
>> 
>> So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
>> Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
>> prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
>> Let's be positive.
>> Yrs
>> Peter
>> 
>> On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
>>> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a form
>>> of madness.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>>>> Area Committee on
>>>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>>>> developed by the council.
>>>> 
>>>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.
>>>> 
>>>> The meeting details are here:
>>>> 
>>>> 
<http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>
>>>> ht
>>>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>>>> 
>>>> John Lawton
>>>> SOS Chair
>>>> 
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Save Our green Spaces
>>>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> discuss mailing list
>>>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> discuss mailing list
>>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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From p.constable at ntlworld.com  Sat Sep 25 14:35:06 2010
From: p.constable at ntlworld.com (CONSTABLE PETER)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:35:06 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Fwd: Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
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Slight correction. Trees at swimming pool are not to be 'chopped".
Consultation referred to leylandii hedge and proposal is "to plant to
the front,bulking up the hedge with a native specie
hedge, followed by a phased removal of the leylandii" (presumably
after the new one provides cover).  Hope this helps.
Peter
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Joanna Gordon Clark <skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk>
Date: 24 September 2010 18:25
Subject: Re: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree
planting plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
To: SOS Cambridge discussion list <discuss at soscambridge.org.uk>


Adding my name and voice to your list.? Can't believe they are gong to
chop the swimming pool trees, yes it is absolute madness.? Uniformity
is not wanted and healthy trees must not be chopped.? The plane trees
in Alexandra Gardens must not be felled, I think the argumetns against
prevail entirely.

Do we know what the cost of the work to the man in Holland St. 's
house would be?? I mean, I do have?sympathy with anyone whose house
and?perhaps huge investment is?suffering from soil movement - but we
don't have to agree to chop trees.? We can: either give the council
enough arguments to fight off the houseowners' insurers, by makign it
clear that the trees cannot be blamed for this, sicne they have
co-existed with the houses for 100years at least,but the clay can be
and that other factors,- climate,?water mains bursting and brick pit
behaviour - will very certainly ahve influenced the soil movement.
That being the case, no tree can be found guilty.
We need a 'beyond all reasonable doubt' for the trees.

Could we agree that the Alexandra Gardens trees should simply not be
felled, and other solutions found, including, as I think, that we find
sources of funding to pay for the work to the house if the council
refuses to play ball, and that no trees on Midsummer common or Jesus
Green be felled for purely aesthetic reasons as present by teh council
.? I cannot believe that we are being ignored by the council.
Ok I hardly ever get to email and it is wonderful to find you all out
there saying and doing things, my phone os 07847922023, and I would
like to see a petition or a lshort letter sent out to all people in
Cambridge at least, about the Alexandra Gardens trees, - this because
of the time factor and they being so precious to so many locally.

I am horrified to find out about the Jesus Green etc. plans, and
wonder what we can do to stop them, only I have to focus right now on
the Gardens. I live on Vicotria Road, 103, in fact, and am so happy to
hear all you people being tree defenders.

I suspect that some people may want to sit in trees to rpevent felling
when push comes to shove as it were, and that we shoudl also have tree
parties, with local schoolchildren also, to celebrate these trees, all
of them and to come and sit under them and be motivated to take
positive action towards saving them. They?can't save themselves....
eheu
Joanna

????? Joanna

________________________________
From: Ellie Stoneley <elliestoneley at googlemail.com>
To: SOS Cambridge discussion list <discuss at soscambridge.org.uk>
Sent: Thu, 23 September, 2010 14:55:26
Subject: Re: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree
planting plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common

I would second that ...
just fyi - I have 'tweeted' about this and the meeting tonight from
@FofSC the Friends of Stourbridge Common twitter account and also
featured it on our new website please could you note the new website
address ... forward me links to your sites as you would like and any
other local news you would like including
http://stourbridgecommon.wordpress.com
good luck tonight - I can't make it due to long standing commitment
but would add my voice to those already shouting about trees going out
of fashion and so on ... there are not enough trees in Cambridge as it
is
all the best
Ellie

On 23 September 2010 13:20, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on felling perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>
> For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ? simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.
>
> With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.
>
>
> The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>
>
>
> Best wishes
>
>
> Anne
>
>
> On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> > Anne
> > Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
> > midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
> > The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
> > of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
> > We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
> > replacement numbers.
> >
> > So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
> > Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
> > prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
> > Let's be positive.
> > Yrs
> > Peter
> >
> > On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
> >> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a form
> >> of madness.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
> >>> Area Committee on
> >>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
> >>> developed by the council.
> >>>
> >>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.
> >>>
> >>> The meeting details are here:
> >>>
> >>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>
> >>> ht
> >>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
> >>>
> >>> John Lawton
> >>> SOS Chair
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>> Save Our green Spaces
> >>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> discuss mailing list
> >>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> >>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> discuss mailing list
> >> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> >> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> >>
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > discuss mailing list
> > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>
> _______________________________________________
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>



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+44 (0) 7989 978763
@e11ie5 on Twitter

I am fundraising for the Kitchen Table Charities Trust - please do
consider donating at http://www.justgiving.com/elliestoneley thank you
- my target is to raise ?5,000

http://mymadagascarblog.wordpress.com
The story of my Madagascar adventure - how a trip to the theatre 2
days after I came out of hospital in January 2010, led to being
thwarted by a volcano in April and a trip to face giant, huge and
enormous spiders, a police mutiny, being attacked by a leech, broken
down trucks and crying with sadness at the plight of so many - and in
doing so helping people living in extreme poverty in one of the
poorest countries of the world.

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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Sat Sep 25 15:21:08 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 15:21:08 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Fwd: Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree
 planting plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTino0H7-ifcwXy4AAg2knwN=ADVYjn8DWDqYZzvd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C8C3C3E4.4332%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>



I think this native species argument is specious .  Many of the trees we
admire are not native. Horse chestnuts for instance were I introduced only
in the last century, around the same time as Leylandii.There is a very good
reason to have dense conifers around the swimming pool as swimmers appear to
agree . They are a windbreak , provide privacy and a sound barrier against
the skatepark. Reduce them yes but if you get rid of them, the whole pool
will be exposed for ages. These trees can be readily trimmed and reduced by
a half if need be, why kill them?

The conifers at the corner of  Park Parade are to be axed. Why? They provide
shade for players ( I play there and they?re very welcome) a screen against
those over-high flats behind and smell nice. They are green and peaceful and
alive and flourishing despite one of them losing a branch. The judgement of
Ms. Oviatt Hamm that they are ? ill formed? is just the kind of aesthetic no
one wants. She has decided on limes for that corner . That?s a mistake
because 
1. they won?t be big enough for decades to cover the brick backdrop
2. they drop secretions on the tennis courts

She assured us at the meeting that regular clean ups would be instituted.
Are you confident that this will happen? And why remove healthy trees even
if they?re not a fashionable ? People in the past put them there and thought
they evenutally would look nice. They do. We are being brainwashed into
thinking of them as unwelcome intruders and a ?mistake?? . If they provide a
green screen, provide a function are not interfering with anyone and
flourishing why is no one standing up for them? I think it will be a
wasteful shame to chop them down, and indeed those around the swimming pool
which could be managed much more cheaply ? however strangely money doesn?t
seem to come into this as they have ?50K to ?spend?and no one wanted their
grandiose chop and plant schemes so they?ve left taking it out on the poor
old conifers. I say no.


On 25/9/10 14:35, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:

> Slight correction. Trees at swimming pool are not to be 'chopped".
> Consultation referred to leylandii hedge and proposal is "to plant to
> the front,bulking up the hedge with a native specie
> hedge, followed by a phased removal of the leylandii" (presumably
> after the new one provides cover).  Hope this helps.
> Peter
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Joanna Gordon Clark <skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk>
> Date: 24 September 2010 18:25
> Subject: Re: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree
> planting plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
> To: SOS Cambridge discussion list <discuss at soscambridge.org.uk>
> 
> 
> Adding my name and voice to your list.? Can't believe they are gong to
> chop the swimming pool trees, yes it is absolute madness.? Uniformity
> is not wanted and healthy trees must not be chopped.? The plane trees
> in Alexandra Gardens must not be felled, I think the argumetns against
> prevail entirely.
> 
> Do we know what the cost of the work to the man in Holland St. 's
> house would be?? I mean, I do have?sympathy with anyone whose house
> and?perhaps huge investment is?suffering from soil movement - but we
> don't have to agree to chop trees.? We can: either give the council
> enough arguments to fight off the houseowners' insurers, by makign it
> clear that the trees cannot be blamed for this, sicne they have
> co-existed with the houses for 100years at least,but the clay can be
> and that other factors,- climate,?water mains bursting and brick pit
> behaviour - will very certainly ahve influenced the soil movement.
> That being the case, no tree can be found guilty.
> We need a 'beyond all reasonable doubt' for the trees.
> 
> Could we agree that the Alexandra Gardens trees should simply not be
> felled, and other solutions found, including, as I think, that we find
> sources of funding to pay for the work to the house if the council
> refuses to play ball, and that no trees on Midsummer common or Jesus
> Green be felled for purely aesthetic reasons as present by teh council
> .? I cannot believe that we are being ignored by the council.
> Ok I hardly ever get to email and it is wonderful to find you all out
> there saying and doing things, my phone os 07847922023, and I would
> like to see a petition or a lshort letter sent out to all people in
> Cambridge at least, about the Alexandra Gardens trees, - this because
> of the time factor and they being so precious to so many locally.
> 
> I am horrified to find out about the Jesus Green etc. plans, and
> wonder what we can do to stop them, only I have to focus right now on
> the Gardens. I live on Vicotria Road, 103, in fact, and am so happy to
> hear all you people being tree defenders.
> 
> I suspect that some people may want to sit in trees to rpevent felling
> when push comes to shove as it were, and that we shoudl also have tree
> parties, with local schoolchildren also, to celebrate these trees, all
> of them and to come and sit under them and be motivated to take
> positive action towards saving them. They?can't save themselves....
> eheu
> Joanna
> 
> ????? Joanna
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Ellie Stoneley <elliestoneley at googlemail.com>
> To: SOS Cambridge discussion list <discuss at soscambridge.org.uk>
> Sent: Thu, 23 September, 2010 14:55:26
> Subject: Re: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree
> planting plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
> 
> I would second that ...
> just fyi - I have 'tweeted' about this and the meeting tonight from
> @FofSC the Friends of Stourbridge Common twitter account and also
> featured it on our new website please could you note the new website
> address ... forward me links to your sites as you would like and any
> other local news you would like including
> http://stourbridgecommon.wordpress.com
> good luck tonight - I can't make it due to long standing commitment
> but would add my voice to those already shouting about trees going out
> of fashion and so on ... there are not enough trees in Cambridge as it
> is
> all the best
> Ellie
> 
> On 23 September 2010 13:20, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on felling
>> perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>> 
>> For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ?
>> simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.
>> 
>> With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the
>> tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one
>> was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two
>> types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the
>> conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.
>> 
>> 
>> The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good
>> sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the
>> view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Anne
>>> Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
>>> midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
>>> The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
>>> of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
>>> We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
>>> replacement numbers.
>>> 
>>> So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
>>> Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
>>> prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
>>> Let's be positive.
>>> Yrs
>>> Peter
>>> 
>>> On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
>>>> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a form
>>>> of madness.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>>>>> Area Committee on
>>>>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>>>>> developed by the council.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The meeting details are here:
>>>>> 
>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=50
>>>>> 2>
>>>>> ht
>>>>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>>>>> 
>>>>> John Lawton
>>>>> SOS Chair
>>>>> 
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Save Our green Spaces
>>>>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> discuss mailing list
>>>>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> discuss mailing list
>>>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
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> 
> 
> 
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> +44 (0) 7989 978763
> @e11ie5 on Twitter
> 
> I am fundraising for the Kitchen Table Charities Trust - please do
> consider donating at http://www.justgiving.com/elliestoneley thank you
> - my target is to raise ?5,000
> 
> http://mymadagascarblog.wordpress.com
> The story of my Madagascar adventure - how a trip to the theatre 2
> days after I came out of hospital in January 2010, led to being
> thwarted by a volcano in April and a trip to face giant, huge and
> enormous spiders, a police mutiny, being attacked by a leech, broken
> down trucks and crying with sadness at the plight of so many - and in
> doing so helping people living in extreme poverty in one of the
> poorest countries of the world.
> 
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> named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate,
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From chair at soscambridge.org.uk  Thu Sep  9 07:33:01 2010
From: chair at soscambridge.org.uk (John Lawton)
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 07:33:01 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Urgent  - tree questionnaire
Message-ID: <20100909073248.XWRG22376.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>

Hi,

You may have already heard about the consultation on plans for new 
planting, and some felling of trees on Midsummer Common and Jesus Green.
There is an online questionnaire or a document can be downloaded and completed.

See the council webpage:

http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/ccm/content/planning-and-building-control/historic-environment-and-trees/trees-and-tree-works/tree-planting-proposals-consultation.en

Just to remind you that the deadline to respond is noon this Friday!

The analysis and planting scheme will be presented to West/Central 
Area Committee at a special Environmental Improvement Programme 
meeting held on 23 September 2010 in the committee rooms at the 
Guildhall at 7.30pm.

John Lawton
SOS Chair

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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep  9 11:32:47 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 11:32:47 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Urgent  - tree questionnaire
In-Reply-To: <20100909073248.XWRG22376.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>
Message-ID: <C8AE765F.4105%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Hello there

I think the questionnaire is marginally mad. It says the ?planting? scheme (
which is actually a lot of felling) main aim is to ?restore historic
boundaries.?
Er, what are the historic boundaries for a start, and why frankly do they
need ?restoring?. I don?t get it.

Note that there are alarming options to axe entire avenues of trees. I
discussed this with the Council in their Consultation Tent. They said it was
, and this is absolutely accurate ? like Capability Brown ? or those
Victorians who cut down a lot of trees for their scheme?

Personally I would like them to forget about historic boundaries, stop these
proposals to chop down healthy trees ? axeing the copper beeches would this
woman on JG Council tent told me ? create a uniform green coherent  line?.
It is such rubbish.  They?re very keen on uniformity, smaller and different
trees have to do and as for Leylandi, even the ones that afford real
protection for the Pool are to be axed altogether.

I dislike their use of language. I have never heard trees described as
?coherent? before and the word ?rationalise? spelled in that American way,
has me baffled. 

Can they not return to their role as park keepers forget all about
Capability Brown and just plant new trees when the old ones die.

They?ve had ?500 for three years from the Electricity Board to replace a
Plane Tree but strangely haven?t got around to doing that.


On 9/9/10 07:33, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> You may have already heard about the consultation on plans for new
> planting, and some felling of trees on Midsummer Common and Jesus Green.
> There is an online questionnaire or a document can be downloaded and
> completed.
> 
> See the council webpage:
> 
> http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/ccm/content/planning-and-building-control/historic
> -environment-and-trees/trees-and-tree-works/tree-planting-proposals-consultati
> on.en
> 
> Just to remind you that the deadline to respond is noon this Friday!
> 
> The analysis and planting scheme will be presented to West/Central
> Area Committee at a special Environmental Improvement Programme
> meeting held on 23 September 2010 in the committee rooms at the
> Guildhall at 7.30pm.
> 
> John Lawton
> SOS Chair
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Save Our green Spaces
> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From chair at soscambridge.org.uk  Sun Sep 19 18:34:04 2010
From: chair at soscambridge.org.uk (John Lawton)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:34:04 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Urgent! - Trees in Alexandra Gardens in danger of felling
 by council
Message-ID: <20100919183301.SYUC22376.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>

Hello,

I though that you should know about the threat to fell a number of 
mature plane trees in this lovely green space off Chesterton 
Road.  There is nothing wrong with the trees, but they are blamed for 
causing structural damage to a nearby property.

See the SOS Cambridge website for more details: 
<http://soscambridge.org.uk/>http://soscambridge.org.uk/

If you find the idea of felling these lovely trees abhorrent, please 
write in protest at the proposed actions.  It is possible to send in 
submissions up to the 21st (Tuesday) and the planning meeting will be 
held on the 22nd September at the Guildhall to recommend the fate of the trees.

Details of all the email contacts are also on the website above.

Regards,

John Lawton
SOS Chair

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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Mon Sep 20 10:42:01 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:42:01 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Urgent! - Trees in Alexandra Gardens in danger of
 felling by council
In-Reply-To: <20100919183301.SYUC22376.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>
Message-ID: <C8BCEAF9.420C%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Thanks John, have written in.

Also asking an FOI question about the cost of the ridiculous 'survey'
they've just concluded using a Yorkshire based PR company


Yours A.


On 19/9/10 18:34, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I though that you should know about the threat to fell a number of
> mature plane trees in this lovely green space off Chesterton
> Road.  There is nothing wrong with the trees, but they are blamed for
> causing structural damage to a nearby property.
> 
> See the SOS Cambridge website for more details:
> <http://soscambridge.org.uk/>http://soscambridge.org.uk/
> 
> If you find the idea of felling these lovely trees abhorrent, please
> write in protest at the proposed actions.  It is possible to send in
> submissions up to the 21st (Tuesday) and the planning meeting will be
> held on the 22nd September at the Guildhall to recommend the fate of the
> trees.
> 
> Details of all the email contacts are also on the website above.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John Lawton
> SOS Chair
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Save Our green Spaces
> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
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> 
> 
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From S.Norton at dpmms.cam.ac.uk  Mon Sep 20 18:18:20 2010
From: S.Norton at dpmms.cam.ac.uk (Simon Norton)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:18:20 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens
Message-ID: <E1Oxk0S-0001LU-Qu@gallinule.dpmms.cam.ac.uk>

According to the SOS website the tree felling will not be discussed at
tomorrow's committee meeting. This presumably means that we have more time to
prepare our objections -- can someone confirm ?

I may need this extra time as it isn't clear from anything I've seen so far what
we should be proposing as an alternative to felling the trees. Can someone
elucidate ?

Incidentally I live near enough to have had an official notice about the
felling of the trees. But I don't feel I understand the issues well enough to be
able to prepare an objection without guidance.

 Simon Norton, 6 Hertford St




From rcantrill at millingtonadvisory.com  Mon Sep 20 18:46:47 2010
From: rcantrill at millingtonadvisory.com (Rod Cantrill)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:46:47 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens
In-Reply-To: <E1Oxk0S-0001LU-Qu@gallinule.dpmms.cam.ac.uk>
References: <E1Oxk0S-0001LU-Qu@gallinule.dpmms.cam.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <32B9C27B1C38EF4690DCFAF696669B1B1536D9@mil-sbs.millington.local>

I can confirm that I have asked officers top defer the item until the
October Planning meeting so that residents are able to consider and
comment on the proposals properly and to enable ward councillors and
myself to discuss with residents their concerns

Regards 

Rod Cantrill

Cllr Rod Cantrill
Ward Councillor Newnham 
Executive Councillor
Arts & Recreation
Cambridge City Council 
Tel: +44 7919103865
E-mail: rcantrill at millingtonadvisory.com



 

-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces at soscambridge.org.uk
[mailto:discuss-bounces at soscambridge.org.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Norton
Sent: 20 September 2010 18:18
To: discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens

According to the SOS website the tree felling will not be discussed at
tomorrow's committee meeting. This presumably means that we have more
time to
prepare our objections -- can someone confirm ?

I may need this extra time as it isn't clear from anything I've seen so
far what
we should be proposing as an alternative to felling the trees. Can
someone
elucidate ?

Incidentally I live near enough to have had an official notice about the
felling of the trees. But I don't feel I understand the issues well
enough to be
able to prepare an objection without guidance.

 Simon Norton, 6 Hertford St


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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Tue Sep 21 10:40:31 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:40:31 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens
In-Reply-To: <32B9C27B1C38EF4690DCFAF696669B1B1536D9@mil-sbs.millington.local>
Message-ID: <C8BE3C1F.423F%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Excellent.There are some huge questions here affecting the future of all
trees, claims for subsidence and other tremendously important factors.


On 20/9/10 18:46, "Rod Cantrill" <rcantrill at millingtonadvisory.com> wrote:

> I can confirm that I have asked officers top defer the item until the
> October Planning meeting so that residents are able to consider and
> comment on the proposals properly and to enable ward councillors and
> myself to discuss with residents their concerns
> 
> Regards 
> 
> Rod Cantrill
> 
> Cllr Rod Cantrill
> Ward Councillor Newnham
> Executive Councillor
> Arts & Recreation
> Cambridge City Council
> Tel: +44 7919103865
> E-mail: rcantrill at millingtonadvisory.com
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces at soscambridge.org.uk
> [mailto:discuss-bounces at soscambridge.org.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Norton
> Sent: 20 September 2010 18:18
> To: discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens
> 
> According to the SOS website the tree felling will not be discussed at
> tomorrow's committee meeting. This presumably means that we have more
> time to
> prepare our objections -- can someone confirm ?
> 
> I may need this extra time as it isn't clear from anything I've seen so
> far what
> we should be proposing as an alternative to felling the trees. Can
> someone
> elucidate ?
> 
> Incidentally I live near enough to have had an official notice about the
> felling of the trees. But I don't feel I understand the issues well
> enough to be
> able to prepare an objection without guidance.
> 
>  Simon Norton, 6 Hertford St
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> 
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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Tue Sep 21 10:45:43 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:45:43 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens
In-Reply-To: <E1Oxk0S-0001LU-Qu@gallinule.dpmms.cam.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <C8BE3D57.4243%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Yes I agree, we must marshall the doubtless interesting arguments, ours
cannot be the single instance of this happening but it is frankly absolutely
typical of this administration to rush to the felling option first, headed
by Mrs. Oviat Hamm.


On 20/9/10 18:18, "Simon Norton" <S.Norton at dpmms.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> According to the SOS website the tree felling will not be discussed at
> tomorrow's committee meeting. This presumably means that we have more time to
> prepare our objections -- can someone confirm ?
> 
> I may need this extra time as it isn't clear from anything I've seen so far
> what
> we should be proposing as an alternative to felling the trees. Can someone
> elucidate ?
> 
> Incidentally I live near enough to have had an official notice about the
> felling of the trees. But I don't feel I understand the issues well enough to
> be
> able to prepare an objection without guidance.
> 
>  Simon Norton, 6 Hertford St
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
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From aeh1 at hermes.cam.ac.uk  Tue Sep 21 18:11:04 2010
From: aeh1 at hermes.cam.ac.uk (AE Hill)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:11:04 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens Tree Felling Proposals
Message-ID: <E1Oy6Mw-0005dZ-i5@ppsw-33.csi.cam.ac.uk>


Hello :

I have put together as an attachment a short relatively non-technical 
document about the scientific and logical issues behind the proposed 
tree felling in Alexandra Gardens for anyone who might wish to read 
it. The aim is to make people think about the often re-iterated 
statement by the Chief Arboricultural Officer (the form varies) to 
the effect that the trees have been shown to be the agent creating 
the subsidence upon which the felling proposal rests.

Until we see the independent surveyors report, which the Council 
officers have not yet released, it is impossible to judge the 'data' 
on which this conclusion is based. However, I have tried to show that 
it is not at all simple and that we should rid ourselves of the 
simple equation of (tree roots)=(serious water 
extraction)=(drying/subsidence)=(required felling) which seems to be 
axiomatic in the minds of many people.

Anyone really interested (and with a bit of time !) should read - or 
pick the relevant plums out of - the London Tree Officers Association 
report of 2008, which makes the case against blaming trees for too 
much of the subsidence in London and the role of the insurance 
companies (see relevant bits above, also).

Adrian Hill
29 Alpha Road
Cambridge CB4 3DQ 
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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Tue Sep 21 18:49:15 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:49:15 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens Tree Felling Proposals
In-Reply-To: <E1Oy6Mw-0005dZ-i5@ppsw-33.csi.cam.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <C8BEAEAB.4273%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Wow. This is such brilliantly written hot stuff, it absolutely challenges
the entire basis of their claim.

I have worried about Mrs.Oviatt Hamm for some time. Her plan to ?restore the
historic boundaries of Jesus Green? involves cutting down a lot of trees,
this is simply another example of someone who is not remotely on top of
their job.

Has anyone approached Dr.Oliver Rackham ( not that this scholarly and
convincing piece of analysis needs any back up ) but he is readily available
at Corpus and helped me with thoughts on London planes when I was
campaigning against the wholescale ?re-modelling? of Jesus Green last year.
Now dropped.

AG


On 21/9/10 18:11, "AE Hill" <aeh1 at hermes.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> 
> Hello :
> 
> I have put together as an attachment a short relatively non-technical document
> about the scientific and logical issues behind the proposed tree felling in
> Alexandra Gardens for anyone who might wish to read it. The aim is to make
> people think about the often re-iterated statement by the Chief Arboricultural
> Officer (the form varies) to the effect that the trees have been shown to be
> the agent creating the subsidence upon which the felling proposal rests.
> 
> Until we see the independent surveyors report, which the Council officers have
> not yet released, it is impossible to judge the 'data' on which this
> conclusion is based. However, I have tried to show that it is not at all
> simple and that we should rid ourselves of the simple equation of (tree
> roots)=(serious water extraction)=(drying/subsidence)=(required felling) which
> seems to be axiomatic in the minds of many people.
> 
> Anyone really interested (and with a bit of time !) should read - or pick the
> relevant plums out of - the London Tree Officers Association report of 2008,
> which makes the case against blaming trees for too much of the subsidence in
> London and the role of the insurance companies (see relevant bits above,
> also).
> 
> Adrian Hill
> 29 Alpha Road
> Cambridge CB4 3DQ
> 
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk


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From aeh1 at hermes.cam.ac.uk  Wed Sep 22 12:28:38 2010
From: aeh1 at hermes.cam.ac.uk (AE Hill)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:28:38 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens Tree Felling Proposals
In-Reply-To: <C8BEAEAB.4273%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
References: <E1Oy6Mw-0005dZ-i5@ppsw-33.csi.cam.ac.uk>
	<C8BEAEAB.4273%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <E1OyNV5-00056H-0C@ppsw-32.csi.cam.ac.uk>


Dear Anne,

I saw your letter about my screed - thank you for your kind comments. 
The aim was merely to get people to take a sceptical view of what the 
Council Officers say ! A bigger document is being prepared as a 
counterweight to Oviatt-Ham but this will take some time.

I do know Oliver as we both shared a room for many years in the 
Botany School (now Plant Sciences) but haven't spoken to him for 10 
years. Your contacting him about planes has spurred me to ask him 
about the proposals too - for that, thanks.

With kind regards,
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From margaret at corona4.fsnet.co.uk  Wed Sep 22 16:50:54 2010
From: margaret at corona4.fsnet.co.uk (Margaret Wright)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:50:54 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens Tree Felling Proposals
In-Reply-To: <E1OyNV5-00056H-0C@ppsw-32.csi.cam.ac.uk>
References: <E1Oy6Mw-0005dZ-i5@ppsw-33.csi.cam.ac.uk>
	<C8BEAEAB.4273%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
	<E1OyNV5-00056H-0C@ppsw-32.csi.cam.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <1819ED04D3A04AF7AE7D7FDD1D7B4ADA@margaretPC>

Just a note to say I was relieved that the application has been delayed and that more evidence will now be put before the committee,

Best wishes,

Margaret Wright
Member Planning Committee.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: AE Hill 
  To: margaret at corona4.fsnet.co.uk ; SOS Cambridge discussion list 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 12:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens Tree Felling Proposals



  Dear Anne,

  I saw your letter about my screed - thank you for your kind comments. The aim was merely to get people to take a sceptical view of what the Council Officers say ! A bigger document is being prepared as a counterweight to Oviatt-Ham but this will take some time.

  I do know Oliver as we both shared a room for many years in the Botany School (now Plant Sciences) but haven't spoken to him for 10 years. Your contacting him about planes has spurred me to ask him about the proposals too - for that, thanks.

  With kind regards,
  Adrian Hill. 


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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Wed Sep 22 17:59:03 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:59:03 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Alexandra Gardens Tree Felling Proposals
In-Reply-To: <E1OyNV5-00056H-0C@ppsw-32.csi.cam.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <C8BFF467.42B4%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Dear Dr.Hill,


I did really think your presentation was refreshingly direct and readable .
As a journalist, one sometimes despairs of material prepared for the public
and this was exceptionally lucid for us lay dullards. I am now completely
confident that sense will eventually prevail.

I am delighted that Oliver?s help with the last protest has somehow linked
you both again, united we stand.


Best wishes


Anne Garvey 18 Hertford Street


On 22/9/10 12:28, "AE Hill" <aeh1 at hermes.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> 
> Dear Anne,
> 
> I saw your letter about my screed - thank you for your kind comments. The aim
> was merely to get people to take a sceptical view of what the Council Officers
> say ! A bigger document is being prepared as a counterweight to Oviatt-Ham but
> this will take some time.
> 
> I do know Oliver as we both shared a room for many years in the Botany School
> (now Plant Sciences) but haven't spoken to him for 10 years. Your contacting
> him about planes has spurred me to ask him about the proposals too - for that,
> thanks.
> 
> With kind regards,
> Adrian Hill.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk


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From chair at soscambridge.org.uk  Wed Sep 22 21:35:03 2010
From: chair at soscambridge.org.uk (John Lawton)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:35:03 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
Message-ID: <20100922213503.XAHC1807.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>

Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central 
Area Committee on
Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans 
developed by the council.

The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.

The meeting details are here: 
<http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502 


Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!

John Lawton
SOS Chair

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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep 23 10:22:09 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:22:09 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <20100922213503.XAHC1807.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>
Message-ID: <C8C0DAD1.42C0%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a form
of madness.


On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:

> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
> Area Committee on
> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
> developed by the council.
> 
> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.
> 
> The meeting details are here:
> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>ht
> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
> 
> 
> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
> 
> John Lawton
> SOS Chair
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Save Our green Spaces
> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk

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From p.constable at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep 23 11:45:47 2010
From: p.constable at ntlworld.com (CONSTABLE PETER)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:45:47 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <C8C0DAD1.42C0%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
References: <20100922213503.XAHC1807.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>
	<C8C0DAD1.42C0%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
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Anne
Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
replacement numbers.

So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
Let's be positive.
Yrs
Peter

On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a form
> of madness.
>
>
> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>> Area Committee on
>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>> developed by the council.
>>
>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.
>>
>> The meeting details are here:
>>
>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>ht
>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>>
>>
>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>>
>> John Lawton
>> SOS Chair
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> Save Our green Spaces
>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> discuss mailing list
>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>
>



From cartoons at andydavey.com  Thu Sep 23 11:58:02 2010
From: cartoons at andydavey.com (Andy Davey)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:58:02 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
	plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <20100922213503.XAHC1807.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>
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Message-ID: <006a01cb5b0e$32cbd500$98637f00$@com>

Will try to be there
Andy
e: mailto:cartoons at andydavey.com


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Cc: discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting plans on Jesus Green and
Midsummer Common

Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central 
Area Committee on
Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans 
developed by the council.

The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.

The meeting details are here: 
<http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>http://www.cambridge.gov
.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502 


Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!

John Lawton
SOS Chair

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http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep 23 13:20:52 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:20:52 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimbqJLcJEGVNfhZ0=S+UuRCHwSdYBifvHYpswr9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C8C104B4.42D7%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on
felling perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.

For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ?
simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.

With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the
tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one
was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two
types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the
conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.


The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good
sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the
view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.



Best wishes


Anne


On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:

> Anne
> Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
> midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
> The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
> of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
> We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
> replacement numbers.
> 
> So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
> Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
> prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
> Let's be positive.
> Yrs
> Peter
> 
> On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
>> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a form
>> of madness.
>> 
>> 
>> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>> 
>>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>>> Area Committee on
>>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>>> developed by the council.
>>> 
>>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.
>>> 
>>> The meeting details are here:
>>> 
>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>
>>> ht
>>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>>> 
>>> John Lawton
>>> SOS Chair
>>> 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>> Save Our green Spaces
>>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> discuss mailing list
>>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> discuss mailing list
>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>> 
>> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
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From p.constable at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep 23 13:41:27 2010
From: p.constable at ntlworld.com (peter constable)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:41:27 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
	plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <C8C104B4.42D7%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
References: <C8C104B4.42D7%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <6860BE9C-A921-4BBD-BB77-1E94613805B7@ntlworld.com>

Anne
The copper beech close to my house and the one at the corner of Park  
Parade and lower park Street are not now on the "felling" list.
Of the 5 on the list three are the leylandii by La Mimosa and two are  
small beeches by Jesus Brook. I have proposals for both of these.
More tonight....
Peter
On 23 Sep 2010, at 13:20, Anne Garvey wrote:

> Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance  
> on felling perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer  
> fashionable.
>
> For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for  
> the axe ? simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a  
> green line of trees.
>
> With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside  
> the tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good  
> reason, and no one was given any option on that ? choice on that  
> questionnaire was between two types of replacement hedge. Like the  
> majority of swimmers, I feel the conifers by the pool are a useful  
> screen for privacy and for wind.
>
>
> The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for  
> good sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and  
> certainly the view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy  
> adopted.
>
>
>
> Best wishes
>
>
> Anne
>
>
> On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> > Anne
> > Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
> > midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus  
> Green.
> > The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large  
> percentage
> > of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
> > We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
> > replacement numbers.
> >
> > So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
> > Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
> > prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
> > Let's be positive.
> > Yrs
> > Peter
> >
> > On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com>  
> wrote:
> >> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to  
> provide
> >> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which  
> is a form
> >> of madness.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
> >>> Area Committee on
> >>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting  
> plans
> >>> developed by the council.
> >>>
> >>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in  
> Cambridge.
> >>>
> >>> The meeting details are here:
> >>>
> >>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502 
> >
> >>> ht
> >>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
> >>>
> >>> John Lawton
> >>> SOS Chair
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>> Save Our green Spaces
> >>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> discuss mailing list
> >>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> >>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> discuss mailing list
> >> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> >> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> >>
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > discuss mailing list
> > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/ 
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From elliestoneley at googlemail.com  Thu Sep 23 14:55:26 2010
From: elliestoneley at googlemail.com (Ellie Stoneley)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:55:26 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <C8C104B4.42D7%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
References: <AANLkTimbqJLcJEGVNfhZ0=S+UuRCHwSdYBifvHYpswr9@mail.gmail.com>
	<C8C104B4.42D7%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
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I would second that ...

just fyi - I have 'tweeted' about this and the meeting tonight from @FofSC
the Friends of Stourbridge Common twitter account and also featured it on
our new website please could you note the new website address ... forward me
links to your sites as you would like and any other local news you would
like including
http://stourbridgecommon.wordpress.com

good luck tonight - I can't make it due to long standing commitment but
would add my voice to those already shouting about trees going out of
fashion and so on ... there are not enough trees in Cambridge as it is

all the best
Ellie

On 23 September 2010 13:20, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:

>  Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on
> felling perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>
> For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ?
> simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.
>
> With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the
> tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one
> was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two
> types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the
> conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.
>
>
> The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good
> sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the
> view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>
>
>
> Best wishes
>
>
> Anne
>
>
>
> On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> > Anne
> > Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
> > midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
> > The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
> > of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
> > We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
> > replacement numbers.
> >
> > So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
> > Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
> > prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
> > Let's be positive.
> > Yrs
> > Peter
> >
> > On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com>
> wrote:
> >> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
> >> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a
> form
> >> of madness.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
> >>> Area Committee on
> >>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
> >>> developed by the council.
> >>>
> >>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in
> Cambridge.
> >>>
> >>> The meeting details are here:
> >>>
> >>>
> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502><http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>
> >>> ht
> >>> tp://
> www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
> >>>
> >>> John Lawton
> >>> SOS Chair
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>> Save Our green Spaces
> >>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> discuss mailing list
> >>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> >>>
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> discuss mailing list
> >> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> >> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> >>
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > discuss mailing list
> > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>
>


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From pale.aquamarine at googlemail.com  Thu Sep 23 15:16:51 2010
From: pale.aquamarine at googlemail.com (Lisa Buchholz)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:16:51 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikxcb=XjHUoAkD-AyUmmpWBNnWTW=x+NfSHtVvq@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimbqJLcJEGVNfhZ0=S+UuRCHwSdYBifvHYpswr9@mail.gmail.com>
	<C8C104B4.42D7%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>
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Ellie - thanks so much - I saw that that you had sent that out.  I'm
planning to go - people are hysterical about the tree 'cull' going on!  I am
so with you on lack of trees (in UK in general I think!).  I always think
how much nicer my street would look if had about 10 big trees on it!

BTW - this is the thing I was thinking of going to at the ADC - what do you
think?  too weird?  There are some other things on but hard to get a grip on
from website; brochure is better.....

The Fire Within
by Patrick Garety
*Tuesday 19th October - Saturday 23rd October*
?10-?6

 The fires will be burning in the streets of Udaipur tonight.The British Raj
in India is coming to an end.In the twilight of history, an entrenched
colonial family prepares its last supper.

Eve has been missing all day. On the eve of James? departure for England,
the family gathers for a final farewell. Tempers fray as the oppressive heat
of day climaxes in the stifling darkness of the Indian night. Someone is
harbouring a dark secret. Outside, a storm is brewing. This poignant
snapshot of a decaying empire is a pertinent reminder of the bonds of
family, the power of love, and the struggle for identity that burns
within. Nothing
is ever really yours here. No matter how many times we stamp things, nothing
is really British. Patrick Garety?s lyrical new play comes to the ADC in a
haunting and evocative production which celebrates the fervour of youth, and
how the choices of a moment can shape our lives.

Have a look and see if other things interest?  I decided there was nothing
really at the Arts that got me going.


Lisa


On 23 September 2010 14:55, Ellie Stoneley <elliestoneley at googlemail.com>wrote:

> I would second that ...
>
> just fyi - I have 'tweeted' about this and the meeting tonight from @FofSC
> the Friends of Stourbridge Common twitter account and also featured it on
> our new website please could you note the new website address ... forward me
> links to your sites as you would like and any other local news you would
> like including
> http://stourbridgecommon.wordpress.com
>
> good luck tonight - I can't make it due to long standing commitment but
> would add my voice to those already shouting about trees going out of
> fashion and so on ... there are not enough trees in Cambridge as it is
>
> all the best
> Ellie
>
>
> On 23 September 2010 13:20, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>  Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on
>> felling perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>>
>> For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe
>> ? simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of
>> trees.
>>
>> With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the
>> tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one
>> was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two
>> types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the
>> conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.
>>
>>
>> The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good
>> sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the
>> view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>>
>> Anne
>>
>>
>>
>> On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Anne
>> > Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
>> > midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
>> > The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
>> > of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
>> > We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
>> > replacement numbers.
>> >
>> > So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
>> > Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
>> > prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
>> > Let's be positive.
>> > Yrs
>> > Peter
>> >
>> > On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to
>> provide
>> >> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a
>> form
>> >> of madness.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>> >>> Area Committee on
>> >>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>> >>> developed by the council.
>> >>>
>> >>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in
>> Cambridge.
>> >>>
>> >>> The meeting details are here:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502><http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>
>> >>> ht
>> >>> tp://
>> www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>> >>>
>> >>> John Lawton
>> >>> SOS Chair
>> >>>
>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> >>> Save Our green Spaces
>> >>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep 23 15:36:20 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:36:20 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <6860BE9C-A921-4BBD-BB77-1E94613805B7@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <C8C12474.42E9%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Well that is a relief ? but imagine the mentality of even proposing to cut
them down, that?s what we?re dealing with.

As for the Leylandii, they are clearly a nuisance in gardens  but have their
uses when it comes to open spaces. I like them and so did the people who
planted them, they smell nice and will look very bare if they?re gone.
Idiiotically they?re planning to replace them with limes which are famous
for dropping sticky substances all over the place, las thing you need on a
tennis court, the new ones will be plagued by the secretions, ridiculous
costly and pointless idea.

See you this evening

A.


On 23/9/10 13:41, "peter constable" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:

> Anne
> The copper beech close to my house and the one at the corner of Park Parade
> and lower park Street are not now on the "felling" list.
> Of the 5 on the list three are the leylandii by La Mimosa and two are small
> beeches by Jesus Brook. I have proposals for both of these.
> More tonight.... 
> Peter
> On 23 Sep 2010, at 13:20, Anne Garvey wrote:
> 
>>  Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on
>> felling perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>>  
>>  For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ?
>> simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.
>>  
>>  With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the
>> tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one
>> was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two
>> types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the
>> conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.
>>  
>>  
>>  The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good
>> sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the
>> view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  Best wishes
>>  
>>  
>>  Anne
>>  
>>  
>>  On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>  
>>>  > Anne
>>>  > Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
>>>  > midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
>>>  > The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
>>>  > of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
>>>  > We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
>>>  > replacement numbers.
>>>  > 
>>>  > So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
>>>  > Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
>>>  > prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
>>>  > Let's be positive.
>>>  > Yrs
>>>  > Peter
>>>  > 
>>>  > On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>  >> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to
>>>> provide
>>>>  >> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a
>>>> form
>>>>  >> of madness.
>>>>  >> 
>>>>  >> 
>>>>  >> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>  >> 
>>>>>  >>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>>>>>  >>> Area Committee on
>>>>>  >>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>>>>>  >>> developed by the council.
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in
>>>>> Cambridge.
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> The meeting details are here:
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=50
>>>>> 2> 
>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&amp;MI
>>>>> d=502> 
>>>>>  >>> ht
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&amp;MI
>>>>> d=502> 
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> John Lawton
>>>>>  >>> SOS Chair
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>  >>> Save Our green Spaces
>>>>>  >>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>>  >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>>  >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>  >>> discuss mailing list
>>>>>  >>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>>  >>> 
>>>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>  >> 
>>>>  >> _______________________________________________
>>>>  >> discuss mailing list
>>>>  >> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>  >> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>  >> 
>>>>  >> 
>>>  > 
>>>  > _______________________________________________
>>>  > discuss mailing list
>>>  > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>  > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>   
>>   _______________________________________________
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>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> 
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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep 23 15:39:24 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:39:24 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikxcb=XjHUoAkD-AyUmmpWBNnWTW=x+NfSHtVvq@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C8C1252C.42EB%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Great, the zero tolerance is the only option in the face of this kind of
thinking.


On 23/9/10 14:55, "Ellie Stoneley" <elliestoneley at googlemail.com> wrote:

> I would second that ...?
> 
> just fyi - I have 'tweeted' about this and the meeting tonight from @FofSC the
> Friends of Stourbridge Common twitter account and also featured it on our new
> website please could you note the new website address ... forward me links to
> your sites as you would like and any other local news you would like including
> http://stourbridgecommon.wordpress.com
> 
> good luck tonight - I can't make it due to long standing commitment but would
> add my voice to those already shouting about trees going out of fashion and so
> on ... there are not enough trees in Cambridge as it is
> 
> all the best
> Ellie
> 
> On 23 September 2010 13:20, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on felling
>> perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>> 
>> For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ?
>> simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.
>> 
>> With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the
>> tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one
>> was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two
>> types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the
>> conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.
>> 
>> 
>> The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good
>> sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the
>> view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> > Anne
>>> > Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
>>> > midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
>>> > The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
>>> > of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
>>> > We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
>>> > replacement numbers.
>>> > 
>>> > So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
>>> > Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
>>> > prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
>>> > Let's be positive.
>>> > Yrs
>>> > Peter
>>> > 
>>> > On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>> >> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
>>>> >> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a
>>>> form
>>>> >> of madness.
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> >> 
>>>>> >>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>>>>> >>> Area Committee on
>>>>> >>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>>>>> >>> developed by the council.
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in
>>>>> Cambridge.
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> The meeting details are here:
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=50
>>>>> 2> 
>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&amp;MI
>>>>> d=502> 
>>>>> >>> ht
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&amp;MI
>>>>> d=502> 
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> John Lawton
>>>>> >>> SOS Chair
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> >>> Save Our green Spaces
>>>>> >>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >>> discuss mailing list
>>>>> >>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>> >> discuss mailing list
>>>> >> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> >> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> 
>>> > 
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > discuss mailing list
>>> > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>> > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> discuss mailing list
>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>> 
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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Thu Sep 23 15:41:03 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:41:03 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=BTSU+39QWt-vq_Sc55Paa9P4X19AG-mQx6UkQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C8C1258F.42EC%annemgarvey@ntlworld.com>

Well we would love ten trees on Hertford Street, it?s so bleak in winter,
just re-locate them here. Or perhaps we could five each.

I think the reaction is so well founded. How about a vote of No Confidence
in the Tree Officer?


On 23/9/10 15:16, "Lisa Buchholz" <pale.aquamarine at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Ellie - thanks so much - I saw that that you had sent that out.? I'm planning
> to go - people are hysterical about the tree 'cull' going on!? I am so with
> you on lack of trees (in UK in general I think!).? I always think how much
> nicer my street would look if had about 10 big trees on it!
> 
> BTW - this is the thing I was thinking of going to at the ADC - what do you
> think?? too weird?? There are some other things on but hard to get a grip on
> from website; brochure is better.....
> 
> The Fire Within
> by Patrick Garety
> Tuesday 19th October - Saturday 23rd October
> ?10-?6 
> 
> The fires will be burning in the streets of Udaipur tonight.The British Raj in
> India is coming to an end.In the twilight of history, an entrenched colonial
> family prepares its last supper.
> 
> Eve has been missing all day. On the eve of James? departure for England, the
> family gathers for a final farewell. Tempers fray as the oppressive heat of
> day climaxes in the stifling darkness of the Indian night. Someone is
> harbouring a dark secret. Outside, a storm is brewing. This poignant snapshot
> of a decaying empire is a pertinent reminder of the bonds of family, the power
> of love, and the struggle for identity that burns within. Nothing is ever
> really yours here. No matter how many times we stamp things, nothing is really
> British. Patrick Garety?s lyrical new play comes to the ADC in a haunting and
> evocative production which celebrates the fervour of youth, and how the
> choices of a moment can shape our lives.
> 
> Have a look and see if other things interest?? I decided there was nothing
> really at the Arts that got me going.
> 
> 
> Lisa
> 
> 
> On 23 September 2010 14:55, Ellie Stoneley <elliestoneley at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>> I would second that ...?
>> 
>> just fyi - I have 'tweeted' about this and the meeting tonight from @FofSC
>> the Friends of Stourbridge Common twitter account and also featured it on our
>> new website please could you note the new website address ... forward me
>> links to your sites as you would like and any other local news you would like
>> including
>> http://stourbridgecommon.wordpress.com
>> 
>> good luck tonight - I can't make it due to long standing commitment but would
>> add my voice to those already shouting about trees going out of fashion and
>> so on ... there are not enough trees in Cambridge as it is
>> 
>> all the best
>> Ellie
>> 
>> 
>> On 23 September 2010 13:20, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on
>>> felling perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>>> 
>>> For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ?
>>> simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.
>>> 
>>> With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the
>>> tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one
>>> was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two
>>> types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the
>>> conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good
>>> sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the
>>> view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best wishes
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> > Anne
>>>> > Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
>>>> > midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
>>>> > The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
>>>> > of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
>>>> > We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
>>>> > replacement numbers.
>>>> > 
>>>> > So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
>>>> > Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
>>>> > prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
>>>> > Let's be positive.
>>>> > Yrs
>>>> > Peter
>>>> > 
>>>> > On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to
>>>>> provide
>>>>> >> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a
>>>>> form
>>>>> >> of madness.
>>>>> >> 
>>>>> >> 
>>>>> >> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>> >> 
>>>>>> >>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>>>>>> >>> Area Committee on
>>>>>> >>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>>>>>> >>> developed by the council.
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in
>>>>>> Cambridge.
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> The meeting details are here:
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=5
>>>>>> 02> 
>>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&amp;M
>>>>>> Id=502> 
>>>>>> >>> ht
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&amp;M
>>>>>> Id=502> 
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> John Lawton
>>>>>> >>> SOS Chair
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> >>> Save Our green Spaces
>>>>>> >>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> >>> discuss mailing list
>>>>>> >>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>> >> 
>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >> discuss mailing list
>>>>> >> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>> >> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>> >> 
>>>>> >> 
>>>> > 
>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>> > discuss mailing list
>>>> > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> discuss mailing list
>>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>> 
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From chair at soscambridge.org.uk  Fri Sep 24 12:38:20 2010
From: chair at soscambridge.org.uk (John Lawton)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:38:20 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Consultation on city allotments - ends today
Message-ID: <20100924123752.JUPJ12520.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@asus.soscambridge.org.uk>

Sorry about the very short notice, but this online consultation on 
city allotments ends today:

<http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/ccm/content/leisure-and-entertainment/allotments/allotment-management-policy-consultation.en>http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/ccm/content/leisure-and-entertainment/allotments/allotment-management-policy-consultation.en 


John Lawton
SOS Chair

---------------------------------------------------------
Save Our green Spaces
http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
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From skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Sep 24 18:25:07 2010
From: skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk (Joanna Gordon Clark)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 17:25:07 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
	plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikxcb=XjHUoAkD-AyUmmpWBNnWTW=x+NfSHtVvq@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimbqJLcJEGVNfhZ0=S+UuRCHwSdYBifvHYpswr9@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <267517.39493.qm@web29718.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Adding my name and voice to your list.? Can't believe they are gong to chop the 
swimming pool trees, yes it is absolute madness.? Uniformity is not wanted and 
healthy trees must not be chopped.? The plane trees in Alexandra Gardens must 
not be felled, I think the argumetns against prevail entirely.

Do we know what the cost of the work to the man in Holland St. 's house would 
be?? I mean, I do have?sympathy with anyone whose house and?perhaps huge 
investment is?suffering from soil movement - but we don't have to agree to chop 
trees.? We can: either give the council enough arguments to fight off the 
houseowners' insurers, by makign it clear that the trees cannot be blamed for 
this, sicne they have co-existed with the houses for 100years at least,but the 
clay can be and that other factors,- climate,?water mains bursting and brick pit 
behaviour - will very certainly ahve influenced the soil movement.? That being 
the case, no tree can be found guilty.
We need a 'beyond all reasonable doubt' for the trees.

Could we agree that the Alexandra Gardens trees should simply not be felled, and 
other solutions found, including, as I think, that we find sources of funding to 
pay for the work to the house if the council refuses to play ball, and that no 
trees on Midsummer common or Jesus Green be felled for purely aesthetic reasons 
as present by teh council .? I cannot believe that we are being ignored by the 
council. 

Ok I hardly ever get to email and it is wonderful to find you all out there 
saying and doing things, my phone os 07847922023, and I would like to see a 
petition or a lshort letter sent out to all people in Cambridge at least, about 
the Alexandra Gardens trees, - this because of the time factor and they being so 
precious to so many locally.

I am horrified to find out about the Jesus Green etc. plans, and wonder what we 
can do to stop them, only I have to focus right now on the Gardens. I live on 
Vicotria Road, 103, in fact, and am so happy to hear all you people being tree 
defenders.

I suspect that some people may want to sit in trees to rpevent felling when push 
comes to shove as it were, and that we shoudl also have tree parties, with local 
schoolchildren also, to celebrate these trees, all of them and to come and sit 
under them and be motivated to take positive action towards saving them. 
They?can't save themselves.... eheu
Joanna?
?????? Joanna 




________________________________
From: Ellie Stoneley <elliestoneley at googlemail.com>
To: SOS Cambridge discussion list <discuss at soscambridge.org.uk>
Sent: Thu, 23 September, 2010 14:55:26
Subject: Re: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting 
plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common

I would second that ...? 

just fyi - I have 'tweeted' about this and the meeting tonight from @FofSC the 
Friends of Stourbridge Common twitter account and also featured it on our new 
website please could you note the new website address ... forward me links to 
your sites as you would like and any other local news you would like including
http://stourbridgecommon.wordpress.com

good luck tonight - I can't make it due to long standing commitment but would 
add my voice to those already shouting about trees going out of fashion and so 
on ... there are not enough trees in Cambridge as it is

all the best
Ellie


On 23 September 2010 13:20, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:

Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on felling 
perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>
>For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ? 
>simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.
>
>With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the tennis 
>court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one was given 
>any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two types of 
>replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the conifers by the 
>pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind. 
>
>
>
>The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good sound 
>reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the view of 
>everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>
>
>
>Best wishes
>
>
>Anne 
>
>
>
>On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> Anne
>> Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
>> midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
>> The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
>> of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
>> We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
>> replacement numbers.
>> 
>> So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
>> Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
>> prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
>> Let's be positive.
>> Yrs
>> Peter
>> 
>> On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
>>> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a form
>>> of madness.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>>>> Area Committee on
>>>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>>>> developed by the council.
>>>> 
>>>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.
>>>> 
>>>> The meeting details are here:
>>>> 
>>>> 
<http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>
>>>> ht
>>>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>>>> 
>>>> John Lawton
>>>> SOS Chair
>>>> 
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Save Our green Spaces
>>>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> discuss mailing list
>>>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> discuss mailing list
>>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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From p.constable at ntlworld.com  Sat Sep 25 14:35:06 2010
From: p.constable at ntlworld.com (CONSTABLE PETER)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:35:06 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Fwd: Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree planting
 plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
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Slight correction. Trees at swimming pool are not to be 'chopped".
Consultation referred to leylandii hedge and proposal is "to plant to
the front,bulking up the hedge with a native specie
hedge, followed by a phased removal of the leylandii" (presumably
after the new one provides cover).  Hope this helps.
Peter
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Joanna Gordon Clark <skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk>
Date: 24 September 2010 18:25
Subject: Re: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree
planting plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
To: SOS Cambridge discussion list <discuss at soscambridge.org.uk>


Adding my name and voice to your list.? Can't believe they are gong to
chop the swimming pool trees, yes it is absolute madness.? Uniformity
is not wanted and healthy trees must not be chopped.? The plane trees
in Alexandra Gardens must not be felled, I think the argumetns against
prevail entirely.

Do we know what the cost of the work to the man in Holland St. 's
house would be?? I mean, I do have?sympathy with anyone whose house
and?perhaps huge investment is?suffering from soil movement - but we
don't have to agree to chop trees.? We can: either give the council
enough arguments to fight off the houseowners' insurers, by makign it
clear that the trees cannot be blamed for this, sicne they have
co-existed with the houses for 100years at least,but the clay can be
and that other factors,- climate,?water mains bursting and brick pit
behaviour - will very certainly ahve influenced the soil movement.
That being the case, no tree can be found guilty.
We need a 'beyond all reasonable doubt' for the trees.

Could we agree that the Alexandra Gardens trees should simply not be
felled, and other solutions found, including, as I think, that we find
sources of funding to pay for the work to the house if the council
refuses to play ball, and that no trees on Midsummer common or Jesus
Green be felled for purely aesthetic reasons as present by teh council
.? I cannot believe that we are being ignored by the council.
Ok I hardly ever get to email and it is wonderful to find you all out
there saying and doing things, my phone os 07847922023, and I would
like to see a petition or a lshort letter sent out to all people in
Cambridge at least, about the Alexandra Gardens trees, - this because
of the time factor and they being so precious to so many locally.

I am horrified to find out about the Jesus Green etc. plans, and
wonder what we can do to stop them, only I have to focus right now on
the Gardens. I live on Vicotria Road, 103, in fact, and am so happy to
hear all you people being tree defenders.

I suspect that some people may want to sit in trees to rpevent felling
when push comes to shove as it were, and that we shoudl also have tree
parties, with local schoolchildren also, to celebrate these trees, all
of them and to come and sit under them and be motivated to take
positive action towards saving them. They?can't save themselves....
eheu
Joanna

????? Joanna

________________________________
From: Ellie Stoneley <elliestoneley at googlemail.com>
To: SOS Cambridge discussion list <discuss at soscambridge.org.uk>
Sent: Thu, 23 September, 2010 14:55:26
Subject: Re: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree
planting plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common

I would second that ...
just fyi - I have 'tweeted' about this and the meeting tonight from
@FofSC the Friends of Stourbridge Common twitter account and also
featured it on our new website please could you note the new website
address ... forward me links to your sites as you would like and any
other local news you would like including
http://stourbridgecommon.wordpress.com
good luck tonight - I can't make it due to long standing commitment
but would add my voice to those already shouting about trees going out
of fashion and so on ... there are not enough trees in Cambridge as it
is
all the best
Ellie

On 23 September 2010 13:20, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on felling perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>
> For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ? simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.
>
> With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.
>
>
> The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>
>
>
> Best wishes
>
>
> Anne
>
>
> On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> > Anne
> > Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
> > midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
> > The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
> > of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
> > We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
> > replacement numbers.
> >
> > So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
> > Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
> > prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
> > Let's be positive.
> > Yrs
> > Peter
> >
> > On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
> >> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a form
> >> of madness.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
> >>> Area Committee on
> >>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
> >>> developed by the council.
> >>>
> >>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.
> >>>
> >>> The meeting details are here:
> >>>
> >>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502>
> >>> ht
> >>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
> >>>
> >>> John Lawton
> >>> SOS Chair
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>> Save Our green Spaces
> >>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> discuss mailing list
> >>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> >>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> discuss mailing list
> >> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> >> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
> >>
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > discuss mailing list
> > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
> > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>
> _______________________________________________
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>



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+44 (0) 7989 978763
@e11ie5 on Twitter

I am fundraising for the Kitchen Table Charities Trust - please do
consider donating at http://www.justgiving.com/elliestoneley thank you
- my target is to raise ?5,000

http://mymadagascarblog.wordpress.com
The story of my Madagascar adventure - how a trip to the theatre 2
days after I came out of hospital in January 2010, led to being
thwarted by a volcano in April and a trip to face giant, huge and
enormous spiders, a police mutiny, being attacked by a leech, broken
down trucks and crying with sadness at the plight of so many - and in
doing so helping people living in extreme poverty in one of the
poorest countries of the world.

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From annemgarvey at ntlworld.com  Sat Sep 25 15:21:08 2010
From: annemgarvey at ntlworld.com (Anne Garvey)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 15:21:08 +0100
Subject: [Discuss] Fwd: Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree
 planting plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
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I think this native species argument is specious .  Many of the trees we
admire are not native. Horse chestnuts for instance were I introduced only
in the last century, around the same time as Leylandii.There is a very good
reason to have dense conifers around the swimming pool as swimmers appear to
agree . They are a windbreak , provide privacy and a sound barrier against
the skatepark. Reduce them yes but if you get rid of them, the whole pool
will be exposed for ages. These trees can be readily trimmed and reduced by
a half if need be, why kill them?

The conifers at the corner of  Park Parade are to be axed. Why? They provide
shade for players ( I play there and they?re very welcome) a screen against
those over-high flats behind and smell nice. They are green and peaceful and
alive and flourishing despite one of them losing a branch. The judgement of
Ms. Oviatt Hamm that they are ? ill formed? is just the kind of aesthetic no
one wants. She has decided on limes for that corner . That?s a mistake
because 
1. they won?t be big enough for decades to cover the brick backdrop
2. they drop secretions on the tennis courts

She assured us at the meeting that regular clean ups would be instituted.
Are you confident that this will happen? And why remove healthy trees even
if they?re not a fashionable ? People in the past put them there and thought
they evenutally would look nice. They do. We are being brainwashed into
thinking of them as unwelcome intruders and a ?mistake?? . If they provide a
green screen, provide a function are not interfering with anyone and
flourishing why is no one standing up for them? I think it will be a
wasteful shame to chop them down, and indeed those around the swimming pool
which could be managed much more cheaply ? however strangely money doesn?t
seem to come into this as they have ?50K to ?spend?and no one wanted their
grandiose chop and plant schemes so they?ve left taking it out on the poor
old conifers. I say no.


On 25/9/10 14:35, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:

> Slight correction. Trees at swimming pool are not to be 'chopped".
> Consultation referred to leylandii hedge and proposal is "to plant to
> the front,bulking up the hedge with a native specie
> hedge, followed by a phased removal of the leylandii" (presumably
> after the new one provides cover).  Hope this helps.
> Peter
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Joanna Gordon Clark <skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk>
> Date: 24 September 2010 18:25
> Subject: Re: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree
> planting plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
> To: SOS Cambridge discussion list <discuss at soscambridge.org.uk>
> 
> 
> Adding my name and voice to your list.? Can't believe they are gong to
> chop the swimming pool trees, yes it is absolute madness.? Uniformity
> is not wanted and healthy trees must not be chopped.? The plane trees
> in Alexandra Gardens must not be felled, I think the argumetns against
> prevail entirely.
> 
> Do we know what the cost of the work to the man in Holland St. 's
> house would be?? I mean, I do have?sympathy with anyone whose house
> and?perhaps huge investment is?suffering from soil movement - but we
> don't have to agree to chop trees.? We can: either give the council
> enough arguments to fight off the houseowners' insurers, by makign it
> clear that the trees cannot be blamed for this, sicne they have
> co-existed with the houses for 100years at least,but the clay can be
> and that other factors,- climate,?water mains bursting and brick pit
> behaviour - will very certainly ahve influenced the soil movement.
> That being the case, no tree can be found guilty.
> We need a 'beyond all reasonable doubt' for the trees.
> 
> Could we agree that the Alexandra Gardens trees should simply not be
> felled, and other solutions found, including, as I think, that we find
> sources of funding to pay for the work to the house if the council
> refuses to play ball, and that no trees on Midsummer common or Jesus
> Green be felled for purely aesthetic reasons as present by teh council
> .? I cannot believe that we are being ignored by the council.
> Ok I hardly ever get to email and it is wonderful to find you all out
> there saying and doing things, my phone os 07847922023, and I would
> like to see a petition or a lshort letter sent out to all people in
> Cambridge at least, about the Alexandra Gardens trees, - this because
> of the time factor and they being so precious to so many locally.
> 
> I am horrified to find out about the Jesus Green etc. plans, and
> wonder what we can do to stop them, only I have to focus right now on
> the Gardens. I live on Vicotria Road, 103, in fact, and am so happy to
> hear all you people being tree defenders.
> 
> I suspect that some people may want to sit in trees to rpevent felling
> when push comes to shove as it were, and that we shoudl also have tree
> parties, with local schoolchildren also, to celebrate these trees, all
> of them and to come and sit under them and be motivated to take
> positive action towards saving them. They?can't save themselves....
> eheu
> Joanna
> 
> ????? Joanna
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Ellie Stoneley <elliestoneley at googlemail.com>
> To: SOS Cambridge discussion list <discuss at soscambridge.org.uk>
> Sent: Thu, 23 September, 2010 14:55:26
> Subject: Re: [Discuss] Special Meeting on Thursday to discuss tree
> planting plans on Jesus Green and Midsummer Common
> 
> I would second that ...
> just fyi - I have 'tweeted' about this and the meeting tonight from
> @FofSC the Friends of Stourbridge Common twitter account and also
> featured it on our new website please could you note the new website
> address ... forward me links to your sites as you would like and any
> other local news you would like including
> http://stourbridgecommon.wordpress.com
> good luck tonight - I can't make it due to long standing commitment
> but would add my voice to those already shouting about trees going out
> of fashion and so on ... there are not enough trees in Cambridge as it
> is
> all the best
> Ellie
> 
> On 23 September 2010 13:20, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Peter ? but I honestly think there should be zero tolerance on felling
>> perfectly healthy trees just because they?re no longer fashionable.
>> 
>> For instance the Copper Beech outside your house is earmarked for the axe ?
>> simply because it?s the ?wrong colour? and they want a green line of trees.
>> 
>> With reasoning like this, 10 trees is a lot. The conifers alongside the
>> tennis court and swimming pool are being axed for no good reason, and no one
>> was given any option on that ? choice on that questionnaire was between two
>> types of replacement hedge. Like the majority of swimmers, I feel the
>> conifers by the pool are a useful screen for privacy and for wind.
>> 
>> 
>> The bottom line should surely be NO removal of trees other than for good
>> sound reasons. I think that was the will of the majority and certainly the
>> view of everyone I talk to . I should like this policy adopted.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 23/9/10 11:45, "CONSTABLE PETER" <p.constable at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Anne
>>> Tonight's proposal is to plant 50 new trees and 10 replacements on
>>> midsummer common and 20 new trees with 5 replacements on Jesus Green.
>>> The wholesale felling options were opposed by a very large percentage
>>> of the 400 or so respondents to the questionnaire.
>>> We may be able to influence tonight's decision and reduce the
>>> replacement numbers.
>>> 
>>> So the work we done by cambridge people has been effective and the
>>> Alexander Gardens issue has been deferred. Madness does not entirely
>>> prevail and our efforts should continue to bear fruit.
>>> Let's be positive.
>>> Yrs
>>> Peter
>>> 
>>> On 23 September 2010 10:22, Anne Garvey <annemgarvey at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>> If only they were tree planting plans ? it?s the tree felling to provide
>>>> uniformity of species ? and they told me, colour, all green which is a form
>>>> of madness.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 22/9/10 21:35, "John Lawton" <chair at soscambridge.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Just a quick reminder of the special session of the West / Central
>>>>> Area Committee on
>>>>> Thursday, 23rd September at 7.30pm to discuss the tree planting plans
>>>>> developed by the council.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The meeting will be held in the Small Hall at the Guildhall in Cambridge.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The meeting details are here:
>>>>> 
>>>>> <http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=50
>>>>> 2>
>>>>> ht
>>>>> tp://www.cambridge.gov.uk/democracy/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=117&MId=502
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do take this opportunity to have your say. See you there!
>>>>> 
>>>>> John Lawton
>>>>> SOS Chair
>>>>> 
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Save Our green Spaces
>>>>> http://www.soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> discuss mailing list
>>>>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> discuss mailing list
>>>> discuss at soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
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> 
> 
> 
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> +44 (0) 7989 978763
> @e11ie5 on Twitter
> 
> I am fundraising for the Kitchen Table Charities Trust - please do
> consider donating at http://www.justgiving.com/elliestoneley thank you
> - my target is to raise ?5,000
> 
> http://mymadagascarblog.wordpress.com
> The story of my Madagascar adventure - how a trip to the theatre 2
> days after I came out of hospital in January 2010, led to being
> thwarted by a volcano in April and a trip to face giant, huge and
> enormous spiders, a police mutiny, being attacked by a leech, broken
> down trucks and crying with sadness at the plight of so many - and in
> doing so helping people living in extreme poverty in one of the
> poorest countries of the world.
> 
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> named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate,
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