From chair at soscambridge.org.uk Thu Apr 28 10:21:58 2011 From: chair at soscambridge.org.uk (John Lawton) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 10:21:58 +0100 Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? Message-ID: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> Inspiring work by Guerilla Gardeners. http://www.theecologist.org/reviews/books/866262/seedbombs_going_wild_with_flowers.html I'm sure there are areas in our city that need similar attention. John Lawton SOS Chair --------------------------------------------------------- Save Our green Spaces http://www.soscambridge.org.uk --------------------------------------------------------- From skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk Thu Apr 28 14:22:29 2011 From: skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk (Joanna Gordon Clark) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:22:29 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? In-Reply-To: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> References: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> Message-ID: <413654.42149.qm@web29709.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Just a note to say, see how good the chestnuts are on Victoria Avenue, not at present showing the signs of disease they had two years ago and last year.? also some sees I grew two years ago, chestnut, I mean, showed browning on the side ofthe leaf, app a viral thing, last year, but now look healthy, so far, and no browning.? Good stuff, eh? ?????? Joanna ________________________________ From: John Lawton To: discuss at soscambridge.org.uk Sent: Thu, 28 April, 2011 10:21:58 Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? Inspiring work by Guerilla Gardeners. http://www.theecologist.org/reviews/books/866262/seedbombs_going_wild_with_flowers.html I'm sure there are areas in our city that need similar attention. John Lawton SOS Chair --------------------------------------------------------- Save Our green Spaces http://www.soscambridge.org.uk --------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list discuss at soscambridge.org.uk http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk Thu Apr 28 15:01:09 2011 From: skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk (Joanna Gordon Clark) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:01:09 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? In-Reply-To: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> References: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> Message-ID: <569182.74737.qm@web29719.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Just using up a few minutes available on lib computer - but the plane trees on Maid's Causeway, that got the Biddle Cut, don't look at all happy.? and I wonder, if they cut back plane trees in the way described for Alexandra Gardens, do they use any of the traditional black stuff to prevent fungi getting in through the raw ends?? After all, it takes a tree qutie a long time to cover over its cuts, and if we get fungi getting in to plane trees, who knows how?quickly they might die. am writing v fast, hence poss errors.? Still those plane trees of the Biddle cut don't look as if they are chucking out any shoots, whereas the Alex Gardens and other ones are already getting well into leaf.? so - is Biddle fatal, to trees?? By the way, nice to see you in the distance?at the Friends of Mid common?meeting ?????? Joanna ________________________________ From: John Lawton To: discuss at soscambridge.org.uk Sent: Thu, 28 April, 2011 10:21:58 Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? Inspiring work by Guerilla Gardeners. http://www.theecologist.org/reviews/books/866262/seedbombs_going_wild_with_flowers.html I'm sure there are areas in our city that need similar attention. John Lawton SOS Chair --------------------------------------------------------- Save Our green Spaces http://www.soscambridge.org.uk --------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list discuss at soscambridge.org.uk http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ceo at cambridgeppf.org Thu Apr 28 15:45:01 2011 From: ceo at cambridgeppf.org (Carolin Gohler) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:45:01 +0100 Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? In-Reply-To: <413654.42149.qm@web29709.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> <413654.42149.qm@web29709.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DB97D6D.7060602@cambridgeppf.org> Chestnut Leaf-miner Moth only starts showing in next few months and from mid July onwards major leaf-browning will happen. It will be interesting to see if the harsher than usual winter has reduced this pest (overwintering in dead leaves under tree). Carolin CambridgePPF On 28/04/2011 14:22, Joanna Gordon Clark wrote: > Just a note to say, see how good the chestnuts are on Victoria Avenue, > not at present showing the signs of disease they had two years ago and > last year. also some sees I grew two years ago, chestnut, I mean, > showed browning on the side ofthe leaf, app a viral thing, last year, > but now look healthy, so far, and no browning. Good stuff, eh? > Joanna > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* John Lawton > *To:* discuss at soscambridge.org.uk > *Sent:* Thu, 28 April, 2011 10:21:58 > *Subject:* [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? > > Inspiring work by Guerilla Gardeners. > > http://www.theecologist.org/reviews/books/866262/seedbombs_going_wild_with_flowers.html > > I'm sure there are areas in our city that need similar attention. > > John Lawton > SOS Chair > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Save Our green Spaces > http://www.soscambridge.org.uk > --------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk > > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ceo at cambridgeppf.org Thu Apr 28 15:48:37 2011 From: ceo at cambridgeppf.org (Carolin Gohler) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:48:37 +0100 Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? In-Reply-To: <569182.74737.qm@web29719.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> <569182.74737.qm@web29719.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DB97E45.90102@cambridgeppf.org> Modern arboricultural techniques do not necessarily use sealant to cut branch ends. Research has shown that fungi etc spores get sealed in and one creates perfect conditions for fungi to grow as moisture is retained. Just crown-reduced and pollarded trees take always a tick longer to leaf out as they have to initiate dormant buds to create new shoots/leaves. Climate Change will certainly see more pest and diseases appearing in our Region. Not sure what is planned for Alexandra Gardens and best to liaise with the City Council's Tree Team Carolin CambridgePPF On 28/04/2011 15:01, Joanna Gordon Clark wrote: > Just using up a few minutes available on lib computer - but the plane > trees on Maid's Causeway, that got the Biddle Cut, don't look at all > happy. and I wonder, if they cut back plane trees in the way > described for Alexandra Gardens, do they use any of the traditional > black stuff to prevent fungi getting in through the raw ends? After > all, it takes a tree qutie a long time to cover over its cuts, and if > we get fungi getting in to plane trees, who knows how quickly they > might die. > am writing v fast, hence poss errors. Still those plane trees of the > Biddle cut don't look as if they are chucking out any shoots, whereas > the Alex Gardens and other ones are already getting well into leaf. > so - is Biddle fatal, to trees? > By the way, nice to see you in the distance at the Friends of Mid > common meeting > Joanna > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* John Lawton > *To:* discuss at soscambridge.org.uk > *Sent:* Thu, 28 April, 2011 10:21:58 > *Subject:* [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? > > Inspiring work by Guerilla Gardeners. > > http://www.theecologist.org/reviews/books/866262/seedbombs_going_wild_with_flowers.html > > I'm sure there are areas in our city that need similar attention. > > John Lawton > SOS Chair > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Save Our green Spaces > http://www.soscambridge.org.uk > --------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk > > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chair at soscambridge.org.uk Thu Apr 28 16:12:38 2011 From: chair at soscambridge.org.uk (John Lawton) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:12:38 +0100 Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? In-Reply-To: <4DB97D6D.7060602@cambridgeppf.org> References: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> <413654.42149.qm@web29709.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4DB97D6D.7060602@cambridgeppf.org> Message-ID: <20110428151241.SFAU5924.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> Thanks. I tried to interest the Green Spaces department in clearing the dead leaves, but they don't have the resources. :( It seems that it would need to be a community effort to do this. I'm told that anyway there is a mixture of opinion that clearing the dead leaves would be helpful, as moths fly in from other areas. Opinions? John At 15:45 28/04/2011, you wrote: >Chestnut Leaf-miner Moth only starts showing in next few months and >from mid July onwards major leaf-browning will happen. >It will be interesting to see if the harsher than usual winter has >reduced this pest (overwintering in dead leaves under tree). > >Carolin >CambridgePPF > >On 28/04/2011 14:22, Joanna Gordon Clark wrote: >>Just a note to say, see how good the chestnuts are on Victoria >>Avenue, not at present showing the signs of disease they had two >>years ago and last year. also some sees I grew two years ago, >>chestnut, I mean, showed browning on the side ofthe leaf, app a >>viral thing, last year, but now look healthy, so far, and no >>browning. Good stuff, eh? >> >> Joanna >> >> >> >>From: John Lawton >> >>To: discuss at soscambridge.org.uk >>Sent: Thu, 28 April, 2011 10:21:58 >>Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? >> >>Inspiring work by Guerilla Gardeners. >> >>http://www.theecologist.org/reviews/books/866262/seedbombs_going_wild_with_flowers.html >> >>I'm sure there are areas in our city that need similar attention. >> >>John Lawton >>SOS Chair --------------------------------------------------------- Save Our green Spaces http://www.soscambridge.org.uk --------------------------------------------------------- From chair at soscambridge.org.uk Thu Apr 28 10:21:58 2011 From: chair at soscambridge.org.uk (John Lawton) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 10:21:58 +0100 Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? Message-ID: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> Inspiring work by Guerilla Gardeners. http://www.theecologist.org/reviews/books/866262/seedbombs_going_wild_with_flowers.html I'm sure there are areas in our city that need similar attention. John Lawton SOS Chair --------------------------------------------------------- Save Our green Spaces http://www.soscambridge.org.uk --------------------------------------------------------- From skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk Thu Apr 28 14:22:29 2011 From: skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk (Joanna Gordon Clark) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:22:29 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? In-Reply-To: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> References: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> Message-ID: <413654.42149.qm@web29709.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Just a note to say, see how good the chestnuts are on Victoria Avenue, not at present showing the signs of disease they had two years ago and last year.? also some sees I grew two years ago, chestnut, I mean, showed browning on the side ofthe leaf, app a viral thing, last year, but now look healthy, so far, and no browning.? Good stuff, eh? ?????? Joanna ________________________________ From: John Lawton To: discuss at soscambridge.org.uk Sent: Thu, 28 April, 2011 10:21:58 Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? Inspiring work by Guerilla Gardeners. http://www.theecologist.org/reviews/books/866262/seedbombs_going_wild_with_flowers.html I'm sure there are areas in our city that need similar attention. John Lawton SOS Chair --------------------------------------------------------- Save Our green Spaces http://www.soscambridge.org.uk --------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list discuss at soscambridge.org.uk http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk Thu Apr 28 15:01:09 2011 From: skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk (Joanna Gordon Clark) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:01:09 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? In-Reply-To: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> References: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> Message-ID: <569182.74737.qm@web29719.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Just using up a few minutes available on lib computer - but the plane trees on Maid's Causeway, that got the Biddle Cut, don't look at all happy.? and I wonder, if they cut back plane trees in the way described for Alexandra Gardens, do they use any of the traditional black stuff to prevent fungi getting in through the raw ends?? After all, it takes a tree qutie a long time to cover over its cuts, and if we get fungi getting in to plane trees, who knows how?quickly they might die. am writing v fast, hence poss errors.? Still those plane trees of the Biddle cut don't look as if they are chucking out any shoots, whereas the Alex Gardens and other ones are already getting well into leaf.? so - is Biddle fatal, to trees?? By the way, nice to see you in the distance?at the Friends of Mid common?meeting ?????? Joanna ________________________________ From: John Lawton To: discuss at soscambridge.org.uk Sent: Thu, 28 April, 2011 10:21:58 Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? Inspiring work by Guerilla Gardeners. http://www.theecologist.org/reviews/books/866262/seedbombs_going_wild_with_flowers.html I'm sure there are areas in our city that need similar attention. John Lawton SOS Chair --------------------------------------------------------- Save Our green Spaces http://www.soscambridge.org.uk --------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list discuss at soscambridge.org.uk http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ceo at cambridgeppf.org Thu Apr 28 15:45:01 2011 From: ceo at cambridgeppf.org (Carolin Gohler) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:45:01 +0100 Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? In-Reply-To: <413654.42149.qm@web29709.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> <413654.42149.qm@web29709.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DB97D6D.7060602@cambridgeppf.org> Chestnut Leaf-miner Moth only starts showing in next few months and from mid July onwards major leaf-browning will happen. It will be interesting to see if the harsher than usual winter has reduced this pest (overwintering in dead leaves under tree). Carolin CambridgePPF On 28/04/2011 14:22, Joanna Gordon Clark wrote: > Just a note to say, see how good the chestnuts are on Victoria Avenue, > not at present showing the signs of disease they had two years ago and > last year. also some sees I grew two years ago, chestnut, I mean, > showed browning on the side ofthe leaf, app a viral thing, last year, > but now look healthy, so far, and no browning. Good stuff, eh? > Joanna > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* John Lawton > *To:* discuss at soscambridge.org.uk > *Sent:* Thu, 28 April, 2011 10:21:58 > *Subject:* [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? > > Inspiring work by Guerilla Gardeners. > > http://www.theecologist.org/reviews/books/866262/seedbombs_going_wild_with_flowers.html > > I'm sure there are areas in our city that need similar attention. > > John Lawton > SOS Chair > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Save Our green Spaces > http://www.soscambridge.org.uk > --------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk > > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ceo at cambridgeppf.org Thu Apr 28 15:48:37 2011 From: ceo at cambridgeppf.org (Carolin Gohler) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:48:37 +0100 Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? In-Reply-To: <569182.74737.qm@web29719.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> <569182.74737.qm@web29719.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DB97E45.90102@cambridgeppf.org> Modern arboricultural techniques do not necessarily use sealant to cut branch ends. Research has shown that fungi etc spores get sealed in and one creates perfect conditions for fungi to grow as moisture is retained. Just crown-reduced and pollarded trees take always a tick longer to leaf out as they have to initiate dormant buds to create new shoots/leaves. Climate Change will certainly see more pest and diseases appearing in our Region. Not sure what is planned for Alexandra Gardens and best to liaise with the City Council's Tree Team Carolin CambridgePPF On 28/04/2011 15:01, Joanna Gordon Clark wrote: > Just using up a few minutes available on lib computer - but the plane > trees on Maid's Causeway, that got the Biddle Cut, don't look at all > happy. and I wonder, if they cut back plane trees in the way > described for Alexandra Gardens, do they use any of the traditional > black stuff to prevent fungi getting in through the raw ends? After > all, it takes a tree qutie a long time to cover over its cuts, and if > we get fungi getting in to plane trees, who knows how quickly they > might die. > am writing v fast, hence poss errors. Still those plane trees of the > Biddle cut don't look as if they are chucking out any shoots, whereas > the Alex Gardens and other ones are already getting well into leaf. > so - is Biddle fatal, to trees? > By the way, nice to see you in the distance at the Friends of Mid > common meeting > Joanna > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* John Lawton > *To:* discuss at soscambridge.org.uk > *Sent:* Thu, 28 April, 2011 10:21:58 > *Subject:* [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? > > Inspiring work by Guerilla Gardeners. > > http://www.theecologist.org/reviews/books/866262/seedbombs_going_wild_with_flowers.html > > I'm sure there are areas in our city that need similar attention. > > John Lawton > SOS Chair > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Save Our green Spaces > http://www.soscambridge.org.uk > --------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk > > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chair at soscambridge.org.uk Thu Apr 28 16:12:38 2011 From: chair at soscambridge.org.uk (John Lawton) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:12:38 +0100 Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? In-Reply-To: <4DB97D6D.7060602@cambridgeppf.org> References: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> <413654.42149.qm@web29709.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4DB97D6D.7060602@cambridgeppf.org> Message-ID: <20110428151241.SFAU5924.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> Thanks. I tried to interest the Green Spaces department in clearing the dead leaves, but they don't have the resources. :( It seems that it would need to be a community effort to do this. I'm told that anyway there is a mixture of opinion that clearing the dead leaves would be helpful, as moths fly in from other areas. Opinions? John At 15:45 28/04/2011, you wrote: >Chestnut Leaf-miner Moth only starts showing in next few months and >from mid July onwards major leaf-browning will happen. >It will be interesting to see if the harsher than usual winter has >reduced this pest (overwintering in dead leaves under tree). > >Carolin >CambridgePPF > >On 28/04/2011 14:22, Joanna Gordon Clark wrote: >>Just a note to say, see how good the chestnuts are on Victoria >>Avenue, not at present showing the signs of disease they had two >>years ago and last year. also some sees I grew two years ago, >>chestnut, I mean, showed browning on the side ofthe leaf, app a >>viral thing, last year, but now look healthy, so far, and no >>browning. Good stuff, eh? >> >> Joanna >> >> >> >>From: John Lawton >> >>To: discuss at soscambridge.org.uk >>Sent: Thu, 28 April, 2011 10:21:58 >>Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? >> >>Inspiring work by Guerilla Gardeners. >> >>http://www.theecologist.org/reviews/books/866262/seedbombs_going_wild_with_flowers.html >> >>I'm sure there are areas in our city that need similar attention. >> >>John Lawton >>SOS Chair --------------------------------------------------------- Save Our green Spaces http://www.soscambridge.org.uk --------------------------------------------------------- From chair at soscambridge.org.uk Thu Apr 28 10:21:58 2011 From: chair at soscambridge.org.uk (John Lawton) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 10:21:58 +0100 Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? Message-ID: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> Inspiring work by Guerilla Gardeners. http://www.theecologist.org/reviews/books/866262/seedbombs_going_wild_with_flowers.html I'm sure there are areas in our city that need similar attention. John Lawton SOS Chair --------------------------------------------------------- Save Our green Spaces http://www.soscambridge.org.uk --------------------------------------------------------- From skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk Thu Apr 28 14:22:29 2011 From: skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk (Joanna Gordon Clark) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:22:29 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? In-Reply-To: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> References: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> Message-ID: <413654.42149.qm@web29709.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Just a note to say, see how good the chestnuts are on Victoria Avenue, not at present showing the signs of disease they had two years ago and last year.? also some sees I grew two years ago, chestnut, I mean, showed browning on the side ofthe leaf, app a viral thing, last year, but now look healthy, so far, and no browning.? Good stuff, eh? ?????? Joanna ________________________________ From: John Lawton To: discuss at soscambridge.org.uk Sent: Thu, 28 April, 2011 10:21:58 Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? Inspiring work by Guerilla Gardeners. http://www.theecologist.org/reviews/books/866262/seedbombs_going_wild_with_flowers.html I'm sure there are areas in our city that need similar attention. John Lawton SOS Chair --------------------------------------------------------- Save Our green Spaces http://www.soscambridge.org.uk --------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list discuss at soscambridge.org.uk http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk Thu Apr 28 15:01:09 2011 From: skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk (Joanna Gordon Clark) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:01:09 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? In-Reply-To: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> References: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> Message-ID: <569182.74737.qm@web29719.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Just using up a few minutes available on lib computer - but the plane trees on Maid's Causeway, that got the Biddle Cut, don't look at all happy.? and I wonder, if they cut back plane trees in the way described for Alexandra Gardens, do they use any of the traditional black stuff to prevent fungi getting in through the raw ends?? After all, it takes a tree qutie a long time to cover over its cuts, and if we get fungi getting in to plane trees, who knows how?quickly they might die. am writing v fast, hence poss errors.? Still those plane trees of the Biddle cut don't look as if they are chucking out any shoots, whereas the Alex Gardens and other ones are already getting well into leaf.? so - is Biddle fatal, to trees?? By the way, nice to see you in the distance?at the Friends of Mid common?meeting ?????? Joanna ________________________________ From: John Lawton To: discuss at soscambridge.org.uk Sent: Thu, 28 April, 2011 10:21:58 Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? Inspiring work by Guerilla Gardeners. http://www.theecologist.org/reviews/books/866262/seedbombs_going_wild_with_flowers.html I'm sure there are areas in our city that need similar attention. John Lawton SOS Chair --------------------------------------------------------- Save Our green Spaces http://www.soscambridge.org.uk --------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list discuss at soscambridge.org.uk http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ceo at cambridgeppf.org Thu Apr 28 15:45:01 2011 From: ceo at cambridgeppf.org (Carolin Gohler) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:45:01 +0100 Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? In-Reply-To: <413654.42149.qm@web29709.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> <413654.42149.qm@web29709.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DB97D6D.7060602@cambridgeppf.org> Chestnut Leaf-miner Moth only starts showing in next few months and from mid July onwards major leaf-browning will happen. It will be interesting to see if the harsher than usual winter has reduced this pest (overwintering in dead leaves under tree). Carolin CambridgePPF On 28/04/2011 14:22, Joanna Gordon Clark wrote: > Just a note to say, see how good the chestnuts are on Victoria Avenue, > not at present showing the signs of disease they had two years ago and > last year. also some sees I grew two years ago, chestnut, I mean, > showed browning on the side ofthe leaf, app a viral thing, last year, > but now look healthy, so far, and no browning. Good stuff, eh? > Joanna > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* John Lawton > *To:* discuss at soscambridge.org.uk > *Sent:* Thu, 28 April, 2011 10:21:58 > *Subject:* [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? > > Inspiring work by Guerilla Gardeners. > > http://www.theecologist.org/reviews/books/866262/seedbombs_going_wild_with_flowers.html > > I'm sure there are areas in our city that need similar attention. > > John Lawton > SOS Chair > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Save Our green Spaces > http://www.soscambridge.org.uk > --------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk > > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ceo at cambridgeppf.org Thu Apr 28 15:48:37 2011 From: ceo at cambridgeppf.org (Carolin Gohler) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:48:37 +0100 Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? In-Reply-To: <569182.74737.qm@web29719.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> <569182.74737.qm@web29719.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DB97E45.90102@cambridgeppf.org> Modern arboricultural techniques do not necessarily use sealant to cut branch ends. Research has shown that fungi etc spores get sealed in and one creates perfect conditions for fungi to grow as moisture is retained. Just crown-reduced and pollarded trees take always a tick longer to leaf out as they have to initiate dormant buds to create new shoots/leaves. Climate Change will certainly see more pest and diseases appearing in our Region. Not sure what is planned for Alexandra Gardens and best to liaise with the City Council's Tree Team Carolin CambridgePPF On 28/04/2011 15:01, Joanna Gordon Clark wrote: > Just using up a few minutes available on lib computer - but the plane > trees on Maid's Causeway, that got the Biddle Cut, don't look at all > happy. and I wonder, if they cut back plane trees in the way > described for Alexandra Gardens, do they use any of the traditional > black stuff to prevent fungi getting in through the raw ends? After > all, it takes a tree qutie a long time to cover over its cuts, and if > we get fungi getting in to plane trees, who knows how quickly they > might die. > am writing v fast, hence poss errors. Still those plane trees of the > Biddle cut don't look as if they are chucking out any shoots, whereas > the Alex Gardens and other ones are already getting well into leaf. > so - is Biddle fatal, to trees? > By the way, nice to see you in the distance at the Friends of Mid > common meeting > Joanna > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* John Lawton > *To:* discuss at soscambridge.org.uk > *Sent:* Thu, 28 April, 2011 10:21:58 > *Subject:* [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? > > Inspiring work by Guerilla Gardeners. > > http://www.theecologist.org/reviews/books/866262/seedbombs_going_wild_with_flowers.html > > I'm sure there are areas in our city that need similar attention. > > John Lawton > SOS Chair > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Save Our green Spaces > http://www.soscambridge.org.uk > --------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk > > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chair at soscambridge.org.uk Thu Apr 28 16:12:38 2011 From: chair at soscambridge.org.uk (John Lawton) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:12:38 +0100 Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? In-Reply-To: <4DB97D6D.7060602@cambridgeppf.org> References: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> <413654.42149.qm@web29709.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4DB97D6D.7060602@cambridgeppf.org> Message-ID: <20110428151241.SFAU5924.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> Thanks. I tried to interest the Green Spaces department in clearing the dead leaves, but they don't have the resources. :( It seems that it would need to be a community effort to do this. I'm told that anyway there is a mixture of opinion that clearing the dead leaves would be helpful, as moths fly in from other areas. Opinions? John At 15:45 28/04/2011, you wrote: >Chestnut Leaf-miner Moth only starts showing in next few months and >from mid July onwards major leaf-browning will happen. >It will be interesting to see if the harsher than usual winter has >reduced this pest (overwintering in dead leaves under tree). > >Carolin >CambridgePPF > >On 28/04/2011 14:22, Joanna Gordon Clark wrote: >>Just a note to say, see how good the chestnuts are on Victoria >>Avenue, not at present showing the signs of disease they had two >>years ago and last year. also some sees I grew two years ago, >>chestnut, I mean, showed browning on the side ofthe leaf, app a >>viral thing, last year, but now look healthy, so far, and no >>browning. Good stuff, eh? >> >> Joanna >> >> >> >>From: John Lawton >> >>To: discuss at soscambridge.org.uk >>Sent: Thu, 28 April, 2011 10:21:58 >>Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? >> >>Inspiring work by Guerilla Gardeners. >> >>http://www.theecologist.org/reviews/books/866262/seedbombs_going_wild_with_flowers.html >> >>I'm sure there are areas in our city that need similar attention. >> >>John Lawton >>SOS Chair --------------------------------------------------------- Save Our green Spaces http://www.soscambridge.org.uk --------------------------------------------------------- From chair at soscambridge.org.uk Thu Apr 28 10:21:58 2011 From: chair at soscambridge.org.uk (John Lawton) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 10:21:58 +0100 Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? Message-ID: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> Inspiring work by Guerilla Gardeners. http://www.theecologist.org/reviews/books/866262/seedbombs_going_wild_with_flowers.html I'm sure there are areas in our city that need similar attention. John Lawton SOS Chair --------------------------------------------------------- Save Our green Spaces http://www.soscambridge.org.uk --------------------------------------------------------- From skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk Thu Apr 28 14:22:29 2011 From: skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk (Joanna Gordon Clark) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:22:29 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? In-Reply-To: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> References: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> Message-ID: <413654.42149.qm@web29709.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Just a note to say, see how good the chestnuts are on Victoria Avenue, not at present showing the signs of disease they had two years ago and last year.? also some sees I grew two years ago, chestnut, I mean, showed browning on the side ofthe leaf, app a viral thing, last year, but now look healthy, so far, and no browning.? Good stuff, eh? ?????? Joanna ________________________________ From: John Lawton To: discuss at soscambridge.org.uk Sent: Thu, 28 April, 2011 10:21:58 Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? Inspiring work by Guerilla Gardeners. http://www.theecologist.org/reviews/books/866262/seedbombs_going_wild_with_flowers.html I'm sure there are areas in our city that need similar attention. John Lawton SOS Chair --------------------------------------------------------- Save Our green Spaces http://www.soscambridge.org.uk --------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list discuss at soscambridge.org.uk http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk Thu Apr 28 15:01:09 2011 From: skyclarker at yahoo.co.uk (Joanna Gordon Clark) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:01:09 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? In-Reply-To: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> References: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> Message-ID: <569182.74737.qm@web29719.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Just using up a few minutes available on lib computer - but the plane trees on Maid's Causeway, that got the Biddle Cut, don't look at all happy.? and I wonder, if they cut back plane trees in the way described for Alexandra Gardens, do they use any of the traditional black stuff to prevent fungi getting in through the raw ends?? After all, it takes a tree qutie a long time to cover over its cuts, and if we get fungi getting in to plane trees, who knows how?quickly they might die. am writing v fast, hence poss errors.? Still those plane trees of the Biddle cut don't look as if they are chucking out any shoots, whereas the Alex Gardens and other ones are already getting well into leaf.? so - is Biddle fatal, to trees?? By the way, nice to see you in the distance?at the Friends of Mid common?meeting ?????? Joanna ________________________________ From: John Lawton To: discuss at soscambridge.org.uk Sent: Thu, 28 April, 2011 10:21:58 Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? Inspiring work by Guerilla Gardeners. http://www.theecologist.org/reviews/books/866262/seedbombs_going_wild_with_flowers.html I'm sure there are areas in our city that need similar attention. John Lawton SOS Chair --------------------------------------------------------- Save Our green Spaces http://www.soscambridge.org.uk --------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list discuss at soscambridge.org.uk http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ceo at cambridgeppf.org Thu Apr 28 15:45:01 2011 From: ceo at cambridgeppf.org (Carolin Gohler) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:45:01 +0100 Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? In-Reply-To: <413654.42149.qm@web29709.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> <413654.42149.qm@web29709.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DB97D6D.7060602@cambridgeppf.org> Chestnut Leaf-miner Moth only starts showing in next few months and from mid July onwards major leaf-browning will happen. It will be interesting to see if the harsher than usual winter has reduced this pest (overwintering in dead leaves under tree). Carolin CambridgePPF On 28/04/2011 14:22, Joanna Gordon Clark wrote: > Just a note to say, see how good the chestnuts are on Victoria Avenue, > not at present showing the signs of disease they had two years ago and > last year. also some sees I grew two years ago, chestnut, I mean, > showed browning on the side ofthe leaf, app a viral thing, last year, > but now look healthy, so far, and no browning. Good stuff, eh? > Joanna > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* John Lawton > *To:* discuss at soscambridge.org.uk > *Sent:* Thu, 28 April, 2011 10:21:58 > *Subject:* [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? > > Inspiring work by Guerilla Gardeners. > > http://www.theecologist.org/reviews/books/866262/seedbombs_going_wild_with_flowers.html > > I'm sure there are areas in our city that need similar attention. > > John Lawton > SOS Chair > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Save Our green Spaces > http://www.soscambridge.org.uk > --------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk > > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ceo at cambridgeppf.org Thu Apr 28 15:48:37 2011 From: ceo at cambridgeppf.org (Carolin Gohler) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:48:37 +0100 Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? In-Reply-To: <569182.74737.qm@web29719.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> <569182.74737.qm@web29719.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DB97E45.90102@cambridgeppf.org> Modern arboricultural techniques do not necessarily use sealant to cut branch ends. Research has shown that fungi etc spores get sealed in and one creates perfect conditions for fungi to grow as moisture is retained. Just crown-reduced and pollarded trees take always a tick longer to leaf out as they have to initiate dormant buds to create new shoots/leaves. Climate Change will certainly see more pest and diseases appearing in our Region. Not sure what is planned for Alexandra Gardens and best to liaise with the City Council's Tree Team Carolin CambridgePPF On 28/04/2011 15:01, Joanna Gordon Clark wrote: > Just using up a few minutes available on lib computer - but the plane > trees on Maid's Causeway, that got the Biddle Cut, don't look at all > happy. and I wonder, if they cut back plane trees in the way > described for Alexandra Gardens, do they use any of the traditional > black stuff to prevent fungi getting in through the raw ends? After > all, it takes a tree qutie a long time to cover over its cuts, and if > we get fungi getting in to plane trees, who knows how quickly they > might die. > am writing v fast, hence poss errors. Still those plane trees of the > Biddle cut don't look as if they are chucking out any shoots, whereas > the Alex Gardens and other ones are already getting well into leaf. > so - is Biddle fatal, to trees? > By the way, nice to see you in the distance at the Friends of Mid > common meeting > Joanna > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* John Lawton > *To:* discuss at soscambridge.org.uk > *Sent:* Thu, 28 April, 2011 10:21:58 > *Subject:* [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? > > Inspiring work by Guerilla Gardeners. > > http://www.theecologist.org/reviews/books/866262/seedbombs_going_wild_with_flowers.html > > I'm sure there are areas in our city that need similar attention. > > John Lawton > SOS Chair > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Save Our green Spaces > http://www.soscambridge.org.uk > --------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk > > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss at soscambridge.org.uk > http://soscambridge.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/discuss_soscambridge.org.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chair at soscambridge.org.uk Thu Apr 28 16:12:38 2011 From: chair at soscambridge.org.uk (John Lawton) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:12:38 +0100 Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? In-Reply-To: <4DB97D6D.7060602@cambridgeppf.org> References: <20110428092203.NSGF20122.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> <413654.42149.qm@web29709.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4DB97D6D.7060602@cambridgeppf.org> Message-ID: <20110428151241.SFAU5924.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Onyx-PC.soscambridge.org.uk> Thanks. I tried to interest the Green Spaces department in clearing the dead leaves, but they don't have the resources. :( It seems that it would need to be a community effort to do this. I'm told that anyway there is a mixture of opinion that clearing the dead leaves would be helpful, as moths fly in from other areas. Opinions? John At 15:45 28/04/2011, you wrote: >Chestnut Leaf-miner Moth only starts showing in next few months and >from mid July onwards major leaf-browning will happen. >It will be interesting to see if the harsher than usual winter has >reduced this pest (overwintering in dead leaves under tree). > >Carolin >CambridgePPF > >On 28/04/2011 14:22, Joanna Gordon Clark wrote: >>Just a note to say, see how good the chestnuts are on Victoria >>Avenue, not at present showing the signs of disease they had two >>years ago and last year. also some sees I grew two years ago, >>chestnut, I mean, showed browning on the side ofthe leaf, app a >>viral thing, last year, but now look healthy, so far, and no >>browning. Good stuff, eh? >> >> Joanna >> >> >> >>From: John Lawton >> >>To: discuss at soscambridge.org.uk >>Sent: Thu, 28 April, 2011 10:21:58 >>Subject: [Discuss] Resistance is fertile? >> >>Inspiring work by Guerilla Gardeners. >> >>http://www.theecologist.org/reviews/books/866262/seedbombs_going_wild_with_flowers.html >> >>I'm sure there are areas in our city that need similar attention. >> >>John Lawton >>SOS Chair --------------------------------------------------------- Save Our green Spaces http://www.soscambridge.org.uk ---------------------------------------------------------