[Discuss] Greens in central Cambridge Litter and Barbecues

[Anne Garvey]

I couldn't agree more. Open spaces are needed to be an absolute requisite of
little flats. And Open spaces must be for all. But the barbeque on the turf
just isn¹t the solution.

Maybe you are right and a designated barbeque area would be good on every
space, but whilst people can just set up ­ and leave litter, they won\t use
it.

Best wishes


Anne


On 19/4/10 15:41, "Allan Brigham" <townnotgown at btinternet.com> wrote:

> Thanks John. But I suspect many of those having barbeques on parks live in
> bedsits or flats, with at the most balconies if they are lucky.
> 
> Some of the money from building new flats and especially small bedsit type
> developments goes into improving local parks for these residents just
> because these new developments have no open space. There have been barbeques
> on Romsey Rec over the last couple of years, and it makes a horrible mess.
> But I'm fairly sure that many of these are people who have no where else to
> go outside. Which doesn't mean that burning the turf, leaving litter or late
> night noise is acceptable. But if policy is to encourage everyone to live in
> towns then there does need to be space for activities like barbeques.
> 
> Perhaps the issue is that of conflicting usages of open spaces, and how to
> manage/reconcile these ?
> 
> And maybe developers should be encouraged to create barbeque provision in
> their developments.
> 
> Allan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:discuss-bounces at soscambridge.org.uk] On Behalf Of John Lawton
> Sent: 19 April 2010 14:07
> To: SOS Cambridge discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Discuss] Greens in central Cambridge Litter and Barbecues
> 
> At 13:36 19/04/2010, you wrote:
>> Does SOS have a policy on barbeques ? Are the objections to
>> barbeques objections to burnt turf, or also to large gatherings,
>> especially at night in summer ?
> 
> I would say that we would oppose on the grounds that there is damage,
> but also usually a huge amount of litter.  Those who enjoy the fires
> seem to feel free to make a huge mess and show no responsibility to
> clear up afterwards.
> 
>> In America many open spaces come with barbeque provision. Do we need
>> the same here ?
> 
> Perhaps in the right setting, but I think not on grazing land, and
> not if they harm the nature of the green space.
> 
>>  Maybe we need to think about parks differently as more and more
>> people are encouraged to live in high density developments with
>> little private open space, so no room for barbeques at home. If the
>> numbers  using parks increase then noise at all times of day from
>> parks becomes a bigger issue, so maybe existing parks need
>> redesigning to keep crowds away from houses ?  Maybe we need more
>> open spaces ?
> 
> Agreed about more green space provision,  but surely everyone has
> room for a BBQ, if not a bonfire?
> 
> John
> 
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